I’m Over It | What Your Anger Is Really Telling You — A Biblical Look at Jonah

Ever feel a slow burn of anger underneath everything — and you cannot even explain where it is coming from? You are not losing your mind. You are probably dealing with something deeper than anger itself.

Many mental health professionals consider anger a secondary emotion — a surface reaction to something harder to name underneath, like hurt, fear, disappointment, or grief. The good news is that Scripture has been addressing this long before modern psychology caught up. 

Anger is not a sinful emotion. Even God gets angry. The question is what you do with it and whether you are honest enough to dig down to what is actually driving it.

David, Phil, and Jon take a deep dive into the account of Jonah in this episode — one of the most fascinating and relatable portraits of anger, disobedience, and a God who refuses to give up on His people. 

They explore how the Lord dealt with Jonah mercifully even in his frustration, and they unpack several other scriptures that bring real perspective to the anger and disappointment we carry around without always understanding why.

This one is worth a notebook. 

Brew something strong, grab your Bible, and dig in.

Drop a comment and tell us: what has helped you get to the root of your anger instead of just managing it?

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Transcript

Over It: Naming The Burnout

David McIntyre 0:00

Our world is filled with some people who are really over it. And not just over it, but they've taken it to another level where, as you know, there are some people who just seem angry all the time. They're so over it, they're over being over it. And we're going to talk about them tonight and what the reason for their being over it might be and how to turn things around. Up next on Bible Bros and Brew. With me tonight are my co-host Philip Rench. And over on the other side is our producer, John. And we are so glad that you guys have joined us tonight. We're kind of geeked a little bit about what we're going to talk about tonight. I want you to think about something for a minute. Think about the reality of somebody that you may know. Uh, and that somebody actually may be you. So if it is, I don't mean to step on your toes, but tonight's your night. But think about somebody that you know who seems to be always angry. No matter what's going on, no matter what's happening in their lives, everything makes them angry. Everything is an issue, everything's a poison pill, and there's always just trouble all around them. Well, we've come to kind of discover maybe there's a reason for that. And once we begin to talk about it, I think it's going to make sense to you, and we're going to begin to turn things around. We're going to get there in just a minute, but before we do, let's talk about what's in the cup. All right, let's see what everybody's drinking tonight. John, what's in your cup?

Jon Dzyuba 2:24

Take a look at this, right? It's February, currently February 4th. Um I've never cared for Valentine's Day, right? But something about like raspberry has stood out to me recently. So I pulled out a white chocolate raspberry coffee, and it was meant to be brewed on ice. Um and it it I think the ice part makes it better because like they have like those sharp, sharp flavors of raspberry, and I topped it off with like a raspberry creamer. Dude, it's I'm telling you, it's like it was it's good, it's like the sharp raspberry. I don't really like fruit in my coffee, but this one just like is strong enough to where it actually like it's enjoyable. I don't know, it's making me feel really good right now. I'm feeling it. Awesome, dude. Love it.

David McIntyre 3:20

We have we applaud you on your use of sound effects to support your efforts. All right, Philip, what's in your cup?

Phillip Rich 3:29

Well, you know, you might think to yourself, those who who have watched this show uh several times before, you know, um, maybe tonight he'll he'll come out with something different than a peregrine coffee. Just maybe. In this instance, you would not be correct. Um, because I'm gonna go with peregrine one more time. Uh, this is their new one. Well, uh, it's relatively new. It's it's called their El Salvador Villa Sarchi, and it has notes of key lime, uh, caramel, and gingerbread. And it is a good, good coffee. I forgot what kind of roast it is. I think it's medium, but man, I had me a cup this morning, dude, and it was like the whole the earth opened up, and and the sky opened up, and the birds were singing a little louder, things were just amazing. So, shout out to Peregrine Man for creating yet another awesome coffee.

Jon Dzyuba 4:33

Are you allowed to have gingerbread outside of Christmas? You know, the Christmas season.

David McIntyre 4:39

I mean, you can, you just don't talk about it. I'm just I'm just kidding. What about you, David?

Phillip Rich 4:51

What's in your cup, man?

Scripture Against Quitting: Galatians 6

Endurance And Perspective In Hebrews 12

David McIntyre 4:52

Tonight I've gone back to a little bit of a fall favorite. Um, forgive me for dipping backwards, but I had some left over in the bag, and I decided that I couldn't not have it tonight. Come on. I am drinking one of my favorites. It's Autumn Delight. Uh Autumn's Delight, that is, from Red Barn Coffee. Um it is just a lovely, lovely coffee. It's it's it's a it's a it tastes a little bit like pumpkin spice and some of those same flavors, but it goes to the left a little bit where it becomes a little softer, a little gentler, and it's just a nice smooth touch on your palate. It would be great with a dessert, or it's a great start to the day as well. So I highly recommend that one for you. All right, that's what's in the cup now. Let's dig into the word. Sorry. You know, we've been talking about being over it uh for the last couple of weeks, and um, you know, we we talked about just in general the week, the first week. And you know, we've been just having some discussions, you know, and in week one, we kind of talked about this concept of just being generally over it and looking at the climate of our world today, look at the things going on, and both you know, around you as well as things going on in your own life, and realizing that it's so easy to just get over it. And we talked a little bit about Elijah that well, or maybe it was the second week we moved in and we talked about and we showed you how um being over it is biblical, that there are so many times people were just ready to quit and uh had enough and just didn't want to have anything more to do with it. And you know, being over it is a mixture of just being ready to quit. Sometimes it's that sense of being burned out and just too much, too, just I'm done, you know, and then there are places in between. And so we talked a little bit about Elijah and how he got to the point after he'd done all these great miracles and seen God move that after Jezebel comes to him and says, I'm coming to get you, he gets in a funk um and ends up in a cave and basically says to God, you know what, I'm done, kill me. I'm the only one preaching this thing and doing doing right by you, and I'm the I'm the last of them. And you know, one of the things we began to see about the goodness of God is that when people came to God and said they were over it, over and over again, whether it was uh whether it was Elijah in 1 Kings 18 and 19, whether you're talking about uh Moses and Numbers chapter 11, which we'll get to, or we're gonna touch on tonight, Jonah and just all four chapters of the book of Jonah. In each case, God has a way of not saying over it, over it. Are you kidding me right now? I should be over it. God doesn't do that, instead, he tends to tends to meet their need at that moment and then talk to them in a loving, caring way to get them to see things the way that they should, to change their perspective, yeah, so that they can see things right and get over being over it. And um, you know, we've been also talking about being over church and being over church hurt. Uh, we've talked a little bit about burnout, and and all of these things, you know, you get to this point where if you look around our world and you look around and just our individual lives, forget the world. In your own individual lives, there's so many reasons that you can be over it. Your money's not right, you know, it seems like the cost of living is going up. And one real easy way to get frustrated about life and how things are going is for your ends not to meet. Shoot when point A doesn't meet point B, and you find yourself going from month to month, not paying this bill to pay that bill, robbing as the as the old folks used to say, robbing from Peter to pay Paul, you know, you get over that. Um, you get over, you know, this sense of working in the rat race, as I think Philip mentioned a week or so ago, where you feel like you're literally going in circles in the hamster wheel, and you wonder, is there anything more to life? You even begin to look at the cycle of your life and how every day, for five days out of the week, for most of you or for several of you, you get up, you go to work, you do the work, you come home, you don't have enough time to you know be connected and be present with your family. You eventually go to bed and you get up and you start the same thing, and then you try to take the weekend to recover. But really, what the weekend is for is to make up on all the stuff that you really couldn't get done during the week. And by the time you set your head down to rest on Sunday, it's just time to prepare to get going on Monday. And it's just it seems like and feels like an endless cycle, it will just never ever end. Yeah, and after a while you get over it. And that leads to where we're talking about tonight, and that is that you know, being over it can make you can turn you into such an angry person, yeah. And you all know somebody. I bet you all at least know at least one person who every time you see them, you know that dude is angry, he's mad about something, and they never smile, they never seem to be happy about anything. You ask them how the day is going, and the first thing they say is, Well, you see what so-and-so is doing, or or have you have you looked around at the price of toilet paper this week? You know, always they it's just negative, they live in a place of negativity, and a place where they just are uh that's all that's the only way I can think of to describe it's just uh you know, they they vomit on everybody, and they're just miserable. And you know what? I can tell you that most people think about it, just think about it for a moment. When we're born, we don't come out of the womb saying, God, I hope one day that I'll be a miserable person who's never happy. That's that's just not what we do. We have hopes and dreams, and along the way, we allow those hopes and dreams to be stolen, taken from us, we allow them to die. Sometimes we're guilty of killing them, and we begin to live in a world hopelessly and purposely, and when that happens, anger being over it, and so many other characteristics inevitably follow that pattern, and it leads to what is a miserable life. What's your thought, Philip?

Phillip Rich 12:54

Man, something I remember um hearing a minister say a while back, and I thought it was so good. He said, Anger is always a secondary emotion, and what he meant by that was it's first hurt, then anger, or first frustration, then anger, for first sadness, then anger. It's like there's always some root thing that anger is like the byproduct of that, um, or even fear than anger, you know. I've had that happen before. Like one time I was going out on the back porch where we used to live, and this hornet, I mean, this dude had me, I think he had facial recognition software built into it or something. Every time I came out on that back porch, that dude would just come around and like it was freaky. Like, I feel like he had it out for me, man. But um, anyway, and I would, you know, I don't like anything like that. I don't like any kind of bugs with loud wing noises. I'm not a fan of that stuff, man. So like I I I got spooked, I like ran back inside, and then I got angry that I was so spooked by this hornet, you know what I mean? Like, I felt angry at the whole situation. This is ridiculous, but yes, it really did happen. So um, so so again, you know, anger can be a secondary emotion. And like you're talking about, David, you know, sometimes people have this stuff kind of boiling on the inside of them, and they don't even fully know why they feel like they do. It's like yeah, frustrated all the time, but then you realize, oh, it's because I feel like I can never catch up on these bills. I feel like nothing's gonna change. I feel like, you know, uh life is falling apart for this reason or that reason. I feel like my wife and I are not getting along. Uh other stuff might be going on, and the end result is you're walking around with just this kind of a like you're like a powder keg, and it may not take much for that thing to blow. And and the the wild thing is the thing that may tick you off visibly may have nothing to do with why you're really angry, you know. Uh you know what I mean? Like, like uh let's say you're you're I don't know, in a rush to go to work and you got your coffee, you know, your little to-go coffee, and let's say you accidentally hit something and drop the coffee. You're I mean, you just go off. And it's like, was it really the coffee? You know, was it really me dropping the coffee that makes me want to explode like a volcano right now? Or is it all the other buildup from all the other stuff I'm dealing with that I honestly don't want to touch, you know, or or feel like I don't know how to deal with that now produces this anger over here that I'm I'm finally found an outlet for it, but that's not the real reason for it, if that makes sense, man.

David McIntyre 15:46

Yeah, so that that does, and I'll tell you, you know, when my wife and I do marriage counseling, in one of our sessions we talk about triggers. And the reality is that everybody has a trigger. Um, usually, usually the way you respond to someone in a situation or circumstance or an argument is based upon them pushing your buttons, as you've heard used before. Inevitably, in what Philip just described in in our sessions, we talk about this concept that you know the husband walks in and he sees his child at the kitchen counter, and the child bumps his cup and pours the milk on the floor, and the dad absolutely loses his mind. And you ask the question is it like Philip said, is it really about the spilled milk, or is the spilled milk the symptom? Right, and all the time the spilled milk is the cis is the symptom. It's that trigger that's working in you that is the real issue. You know, it is, you know, you ask the dad, why did that bother you so much? And after you talk to him a little bit, he's like, I work hard every day to try to provide for my family and to make sure we have everything we need. And it's like nobody cares. Oh, now we're getting somewhere.

Phillip Rich 17:19

Now we're getting somewhere.

Unanswered Prayers And God’s Timing

David McIntyre 17:20

Because it's not really the milk, it's about how you feel based upon what happened and how you feel people feel about you and what you do, or whether or not they are uh properly appreciating or considering all that you're doing to make sure everybody has what they need. And so there are all these different kinds of triggers, you know, triggers like uh what I think and what I feel and what I say doesn't matter, being disrespected, uh feeling unappreciated, uh, the feeling of abandonment. All of those are different kinds of triggers that play in our lives. And when people dial up those buttons, they get a response from us that we sometimes didn't plan. Now that's for everybody, but then there are people who have been dialed up and they stay dialed up. And those are the people that I kind of want to talk about tonight, you know, because they, you know, I just share with Philip, you know, these are the people that you know they look at the news every day, and the more they watch it, the more angry they get, depending on what side of the aisle they sit on. But the one thing that we know is that the media is not trying to, and if you didn't know, ladies and gentlemen, I'd like to introduce you to this thought the media is not efforting to communicate the news in a fair and balanced way. No, the media is choosing sides, and the side they choose is the side that gins up more anger because the more angry you become, the more agitated you become, the more clicks they get, the more clicks they get means more money coming into that station means you'll come back to them for the follow-up on that thing, and they are ginning you up for financial gain. Yep, they're ginning you up because they have a stake in the politics of this world and they've chosen a side, and now they want you to be on whatever side that they're on and make it possible for them to survive and live. If you've never believed that's true, how is it possible that we live in a world where we've had president after president after president after president? And typically we've at least had amicable communication from our media, but there's something about this man in office right now that has absolutely flipped people's wigs, and you now look at you look at you see it on social media, you see it on TV. People are angry all the time, they're mad about stuff. I watched a video earlier today where you know a white woman was mad at a black woman for supporting a specific candidate, and she said, I can't believe you would do that. You're brown, so now I want to fight everybody who's brown. This is what she said. I'm gonna fight everybody who's brown that follows that person. And what did she do? She punched her. Oh wow, she punched her because her anger had gotten out of control, and so her only way to express what she was feeling was to go at it physically because she felt like her words weren't getting the job done anymore.

Phillip Rich 20:58

Wow, wow, how about that for emotional manipulation, dude?

David McIntyre 21:03

Dude, it's wild, and then we come out and we're also we're mad at our churches. Uh, though some of you you've heard us talking about the church over the last couple of weeks, but you're mad at your church, you're mad because you had a need and they didn't quite meet it, or you don't like the way certain things are run. The pastor didn't shake your hand and talk to you, or you shook his hand, but he didn't stop and spend specific time talking to you in a long form until you felt satisfied with his engagement with you. You're mad at the church because there was an incident in the children's ministry, and as harmless as it was, you looked at it with malice, and there's malice everywhere, malice everywhere you go. You lost out on a parking space, and now those people are just out to get you because you're this or because you're that. And you, you know, we have this way of wrapping. Wrapping all these other things in it. The reason why I'm mad is because that person took my parking space. And oh, by the way, they were white and I'm black, and that's racism. We put wild things together in order to justify our ongoing sense of being angry and over it. And we've gotten to a point in our society where people just live that way. One person in the Bible that I think epitomizes that uh to a certain degree was Jonah. And uh when you look at Jonah's story, I mean, um, Philip, you want to talk about Jonah a little bit and intro his story? Go ahead.

Phillip Rich 22:50

Yeah, yeah. Jonah basically um was called by God. It was plain. Well, actually, I'll tell you what, Jonah will just put it on put on the screen like you were doing. Um in Jonah chapter one, it says, I love how the very first heading is Jonah flees from the Lord. It's already starting off. You already know, it's already going down a bad path here. Um, it says verse one now the word of the Lord came to Jonah, son of Amitai, saying, Get up, go to the great city of Nineveh, and preach against it, because its wickedness has come up before me. All right, so verse three Jonah, however, got up to flee to wait a minute, that that's not Nineveh. He got up to flee to Tarshish. And and I think uh I forgot who said this, but I heard some guy, maybe maybe Chuck Missler, he was saying that if you look at these two places where they were on the map, they were complete opposites, like it was a complete opposite direction. So um he got up to flee to Tarshish away from the presence of the Lord. Uh oh, there's a first mistake right there. Uh, he went down to Joppa and found a ship bound for Tarshish. So he paid the fare and went aboard to sail for Tarshish away from the presence of the Lord. Once again, emphasizing this is not where God wanted him to go, right?

David McIntyre 24:12

Well, and can I just say the wild thing here? Just think about it for a moment. We kind of, in one sense, we jump in in the beginning but the middle of the story, right? Uh-huh. We don't at this point know why we find out a little bit later on. We don't know why Jonah did this per se. Right. All we know is the Lord gave him some instruction. We also just generally know if you know anything about the Bible, God gives you instruction, you follow that instruction and go do what the Lord says, right? Somehow or another, Jonah determined that the God of the universe could not follow him wherever he went. And his answer is, hmm, I'm getting on a boat going that way because God go that way, as if he could outrun the presence of the Lord. See, see, and that's that just that's a wild thought because we now you you be honest with yourself. We do the exact same thing when the Lord tells us to do something. When the Lord says, Don't sleep with that person. We're like, Lord, but um, I and we're and it's right, and it's like the Lord saying no, don't do it. The Lord tells you, don't date that person, don't go over to their house, don't attend that party, don't do this, don't do that. And the Lord is giving us that instruction. And the reality is most of us sometimes we act like Jonah, and when God says, Go this way or do this thing, we go the absolute other way, yeah. And then what's so wild about that is we wonder why we get the other way outcomes because Jonah's getting ready to run into a buzzaw that he never expected to be a part of.

Phillip Rich 26:14

See, see, so as you can imagine, things probably were not gonna be panning out for Jonah based on the how it's starting off here. So it's it's the same thing as if, like, literally, man. Okay, you we live in Atlanta. Well, yeah, we all live in Atlanta. I'm so used to my North Carolina mindset, I'm still uh anyway, praise God. Um, but in Atlanta, they've got some major highways, uh, Interstate 85 and I-75. So let's say the Lord told me to jump on I-75 and go up to Chattanooga. It'd be the same thing as if I just jumped on 85 and went up to Greenville, South Carolina instead. You know, it's like I didn't do right. I'm already starting off on the wrong foot if I get on 85, you know. So it's kind of the same thing here with Jonah. He jumped on the ship to go to Tarshish as soon as he paid that fare. I promise you it was not the right way to go, you know. Um, but on uh for the rest of the verse, if you don't mind, John putting it back up on there. I want to uh see that. Yep. So so far, Jonah's on the ship, he's paid his fare, he's on the way to Tarshish. Things seem to be pretty calm at first. All of a sudden, verse four comes. Then the Lord hurled a great wind. I love how I said he hurled it, dude. I don't know if it's like a baseball pitch or what God may have done there, but but it was like he hurled a great wind upon the sea, and such a violent storm arose that the ship was in danger of breaking apart. That's serious, and so the sailors were afraid. Now, these guys were pros at sailing, but they were scared, and each, you know, each cried out to his own god look on on board with a bunch of idolaters. That's not a good sign either.

Jon Dzyuba 28:06

So third red flag for you, yeah.

Phillip Rich 28:10

Third red flag, and they threw the ship's cargo into the sea to lighten the load. Kind of the same thing that happened in the book of Acts when they were about to be shipped. Right when they were, yeah, it says, But Jonah had gone down to the lowest part of the vessel where he lay down and fell into a deep sleep. My goodness.

David McIntyre 28:29

Just think about it. Jonah is dead wrong. And the Lord's the Lord's out to make this thing difficult for him, yeah. And he's so sad in being wrong. That joker, while this boat is rocking and reeling, that joker is down in the bottom of the boat asleep, and he's knocked out.

Gentle Responses To Doubt And Hurt

Jon Dzyuba 28:49

Good lord. Can I be honest? If if if I were stuck in this situation and I know I'm already wrong for for not obeying the Lord, if I see this giant storm, and then I see all these crewmates praying to Raw and to Zeus and to and to Jupiter or whoever, or like I'm like, dude, okay, like uh you can't the last thing on my mind is to to go into a deep sleep.

David McIntyre 29:18

Well, John, John, that's the wild thing, is I don't even think if based upon how we read this, I don't even think that he knew that that was happening because he was already asleep, right?

Phillip Rich 29:30

Right, there's no telling then. Because it says, Yeah, if you look at it in that verse, says but Jonah had gone down, meaning it probably had already happened, you know. And then meanwhile, there's total chaos happening uh in on the upper deck there, or whatever. So um, but in verse six, it said the captain approached him and said, How can you sleep? Yeah, kind of the disciples did Jesus when he was sleeping on the boat in the storm, you know.

David McIntyre 29:59

Um isn't it interesting? We've got two callbacks on this story already, right? Or two two preludes, you know. Both of them with the boats, you have Paul and what happened to him, yeah, and what the difference was Paul belonged on that boat, right? Come on now, and then you got Jesus sleeping in his ship, but Jesus was supposed to be asleep because he wasn't fearful, right? Jonah was the opposite of both of them at this moment.

Phillip Rich 30:29

Wow, that's good, man. And so the captain did ask him, How can you sleep? And it says, The captain said, Get up and call upon your God. Perhaps this God will consider us so that we may not perish. Evidently, the other gods weren't working.

Jon Dzyuba 30:43

Uh pray to any God at this point. What we had in this situation, right?

Phillip Rich 30:49

Right. Any an old saying, any port in a storm, you know, that kind of thing going on. So um, verse seven, come, said the sailors to one another. Let us cast lots, which means uh like rolling dice is kind of a game of chance. Let us cast lots to find out who is responsible for this calamity that is upon us. So it's interesting. They were like, Somebody is to blame here, dude. Somebody is to blame. So they cast lots, and the lot fell on Jonah. Now, this is what's cool about this. That is so funny. There's a scripture in Proverbs, I forgot which chapter, but at the end of the chapter, it says the lot is cast into the lap, but the whole disposing of it is of the Lord. Meaning, the Amplified Bible says, even things that seem accidental are really orchestrated by God, you know. So pretty sure that applied to this one at least. Yes, it did. You know, so they they cast lots, and the lot fell on Jonah. Tell us now, they demanded, who's to blame for this calamity that's upon us? What is your occupation? And where have you come from? What is your country? Who are your people? They're like, we don't know nothing about you, man. So um, let's see, the next verse is here. Jonah said, I am a Hebrew, replied Jonah. I worship the Lord, which at the time will be Yahweh, I believe is how he. Anytime you see that word Lord in caps, I think it means Yahweh, if I'm not mistaken, but um the God of the heavens who made the sea in the dry land. Then the men were even more afraid and said to him, What have you done? It's like the men knew that he was fleeing from the presence of the Lord because he had told them. Yeah. Oh boy. And of course, I can imagine that when Jonah said he made the sea, they were probably like, Oh, okay, this is why we're so much turmoil. Um, now the sea was growing worse and worse. So they said to Jonah, What must we do to you to calm this sea for us? It's like, oh man, it's getting worse. Pick me up, he answered, and cast me into the sea, so it may quiet down for you. For I know that I am to blame for this violent storm that's come upon you. At least Jonah had a sense of like, I screwed up, you know. Nevertheless, the men rode hard to get back to dry land, but they could not, for the sea was raging against them more and more. Okay, so verse 14. So they cried out to the Lord, Please, O Lord, do not let us perish on account of this man's life. Do not charge us with innocent blood, for you, O Lord, have done as you pleased. Then they picked up Jonah and chunked his butt overboard. And it said, As soon as they did that, the raging sea grew calm. Wow. And but I love this verse 16. Then the men feared the Lord greatly, and they offered a sacrifice to the Lord. It's like these guys were total, you know, Gentiles, idol worshippers. But they say, you know what, we're gonna throw a sacrifice in for this God here.

David McIntyre 33:50

So look at look at Jesus catching fish, right? You know, exactly God catching fish, even in this situation.

Phillip Rich 33:57

Come on now. Speaking of fish, verse 17. Now the Lord had appointed a great fish. Now, traditionally, it's like a whale, but we actually don't know, you know, because it just says great fish. The Lord appointed a great fish to swallow Jonah, and Jonah spent three days and three nights in the belly of the fish.

Culture, College, And Drifting Faith

David McIntyre 34:18

Dang, so now things get interesting here because basically Jonah is in the sea, he's basically in the process of drowning. And this fish comes and swallows him up, but he's not necessarily in any better position inside of the fish uh than he necessarily was outside of the fish. Well, I guess he was because maybe there was just a little bit of dryness in there, but it says he was in the belly of the whale, and that's not necessarily a good place to be because that's where digestion is happening and all that. There's a whole nother slide to you know, discussion we had around that, but then when you look at Jonah chapter two, we see that chapter two is basically a prayer, and it's Jonah's like, Okay, um I I I messed up, and he basically entreats the Lord, and he says this prayer, and then at the end of it, in verse 10, it says, And the Lord commanded the fish, and it vomited Jonah onto the dry land. Wow, so he prays inside the fish, and then he is eventually spit back up on land, and then God comes to him in Jonah chapter three, and he says it again get up, go to the great city of Nineveh, and proclaim to it the message that I give you. Wow, this time Jonah got up and went back the right way, and he went to Nineveh, and then when he got there, first of all, they tell you how great of a city Nineveh is because he had some work to do, and Jonah began to proclaim what God had told him, and basically it was in verse I think it's three. Uh well, let's see. Then the word of the Lord came to Jonah, get up, go. Verse that's two, verse three says, This time Jonah got up and went to Nineveh in accordance with the word of the Lord. Now, Nineveh was exceedingly great, requiring a three-day journey. On the first day of his journey, Jonah set out into the city and proclaimed 40 more days, and Nineveh will be overturned. In other words, it's gonna be destroyed.

Phillip Rich 36:43

Dang.

David McIntyre 36:44

And you and you remember in the first verse, God said that the evil that Nineveh had done had come up to him. So he was aware of what they were doing and decided just like Sodom and Gomorrah, just like some other cities and towns, he was going to destroy this one too for their wickedness, which means it had to be vile. Yeah, yeah, it had to be vile. Now, look, don't leave us just yet because I'm about to connect the dots to your anger in just a minute, and we're gonna circle around here. And so then look what happened, though. And this is the thing that took Jonah out. It says in verse 6 of verse 5, and the Ninevites believed God, they heard what Jonah said, and they believed it. And what the first thing they did was they proclaimed the fast, they dressed in slack sackcloth, from the greatest of them to the least. When word reached the king of Nineveh, he got up from his throne, took off his robe, his royal robe, covered himself with sackcloth, and sat in ashes. Then he issued a proclamation in Nineveh by the decree of the king and his nobles, let no man or beast heard or flock taste anything at all. They must not eat or drink. Furthermore, let both man and beast be covered with slack, sackcloth, and have everyone call out earnestly to God. Let each one turn from his evil ways and from the violence in his hands. Who knows? God may turn and relent, he may turn from his fierce anger, so that we will not perish. And then look at this. We see this over and over and over again in the Bible, which is why sometimes I struggle with people who say God is an evil God, God is not a good God, God is an unjust God. Because he says, When God saw their actions, that they had turned from their evil ways, he relented from the disaster he had threatened to bring upon them. Wow. Wow. So we see God change his mind about what he was going to do to Nineveh, which brings us to Jonah chapter four, which tells us we comes back to Jonah and it says, Jonah, however, was greatly displeased and he became angry. Man. So he prayed to the Lord, saying, Oh Lord, is this not what I said while I was still in my own country? So there was a conversation we weren't privy to that Jonah had with God. Wow. And he said, This is why I was so quick to flee toward Tarshish. I knew that you are a gracious and compassionate God, slow to anger, abounding in loving devotion, one who relents from sending disaster. And now, O Lord, please just take my life from me, for it is better for me to die than to live. Jonah was mad at God for what he did, and he was just over it. But the Lord asked him an interesting question in verse 4. And again, just like with Elijah, he asked this question more than once. He says, But the Lord replied, Have you any right to be angry? In other words, in light of everything, do you have the right to be angry? And specifically, angry with the situation and angry with me. You have the right. And so it's a it's an interesting thing because I want to tie it together, then we're gonna finish a story of Jonah. So many of us are angry. And I've come to believe that part of the reason that we are angry, there I in light of reading this right now, I think there are two reasons. Number one, I think we all, so many of us, lack purpose, godly purpose and direction in our life. And because we do, we have turned to anger as our emotional outlet. Now remember what Philip said earlier. There's usually a preceding emotion, and I'm gonna tell you, probably the biggest one is fear. Yeah, I'm afraid that I will never become what I believed I could be. I'm afraid that I will never achieve all that I thought the Lord would have for me. I'm afraid that I'll never know God's will and plan for me and be able to do that. And so, out of fear, out of sadness, because then some of you may have been doing those things and felt satisfied and fulfilled, but you sinned, you messed up, and now that sin has turned into condemnation, has turned into shame, and now you never fully return to where you were before because of how you feel about it. And the more you walk through it, the more you feel angry about what happened. You're angry at yourself, you're angry at God because you don't feel like he's fully restored you back to where you want to be. You don't feel like you're fully healed, you're fearful about it, you're angry about it, and you point your finger at God. And that's the second part of this is that some of you lack purpose and direction. Others of you, for whatever reason, are angry at God. And because you're angry at God, you're angry at everything He created, and you don't necessarily think of it that way. You just look at it as you're mad at this, you don't like that, you judge this, you judge that, and everything is bad. And I'm telling you, we've got to turn this thing around because you got to ask yourself the same question. Have you any right to be as angry as you are? Have you any right to feel that way? Because we can all we all get purpose and direction just from reading the word. Yeah, if not, if the only purpose and direction you get is that you were created to praise God, you could literally praise God all your life and be in the will of God.

Jon Dzyuba 43:46

Yeah, true.

David McIntyre 43:48

You could you could literally do the things that are in the Bible, be kind to people, help those who are in need, be a good friend to people, teach people the word, share. Share the gospel with other people. You can literally do the things that are written in the word that God calls us to do and be fully fulfilling what you have. Some of us have this, we're we're so bent out because we say to ourselves, I'm supposed to be a preacher, I'm supposed to be a this, I'm supposed to be a that, and it's because you just felt like that's what you're supposed to be, not ever because God told you that was your calling.

Phillip Rich 44:26

Right. Right.

David McIntyre 44:27

And we get all we we go to some churches, especially in the charismatic movement, where we're pushed into this concept of you've got a, you know, you've got a call from God, and God's gonna use you mightily in your call, and you need to just ask God for this, and you need to ask him for tongues, and you need to ask him for discernment, and you need to ask him for wisdom. And biblically speaking, yes, all of that is true, but usually it's always wrapped up in some other great calling, so that you can be called a pastor, a prophet, an evangelist, a teacher, and all of a sudden, for some reason in your mind that conveys some authority, some responsibility, some status that you don't have as being just a regular believer, and you seek after that status more than you seek after doing the will of God. Wow.

unknown 45:15

Wow.

David McIntyre 45:17

And all of that is just it's it's all it's all vanity. It's like it's like Solomon said in in Ecclesiastes, it's all empty, it's all vanity. And what did he tell us at the end of it all? After all he had done, he'd walked away from God, he had concubines, he had sexually transmitted diseases, he had married women that were outside of his faith. He had dabbled over here, he had dabbled over there, he walked away from God, and he said, Here's the end of the matter. Fear God and keep his commandment. That is walking out our calling in God every day of our lives. It's not this big overarching stuff. Philip, I talk too much. Go ahead.

Counting The Cost Of False Promises

Phillip Rich 46:06

No, this was great, David. Um, I feel like a lot of people struggle with this, especially Christians who, you know, like you said, honestly, it you know, in the in the charismatic movement, it's much more of a prominent thing for people to have this idea that uh they're not really doing something for God unless it's in some lane of a spiritual gift, quote unquote, that that's listed in the Bible, like you know, evangelist, prophet, pastor, teacher, like the fivefold type of thing. Um and if they don't have that going on in some type of official capacity, they think they're not being used by God at all, you know, and so that produces disappointment, disillusionment, whatever the case is. And I I love how you said it though, David, because it's true. It's like when people start pursuing those types of things, which is not a bad thing to pursue, because Paul said, you know, earnestly desire the gifts, you know, but if you're doing it with a wrong motive, you're only going to get frustrated. Uh, and it actually it's it's um it's James Four. It's James Ford, dude. John, if you don't mind going to James Four. Uh I don't mind. Because that just kind of popped in my head right when I was talking. So um I got a little excited. Um there we go. James 4. It says, What causes quarrels and what causes fights among you? Is it not this that your passions are at war within you? Can you see how even your own desires and stuff that you things you think should be happening, or you think you should have, or you think it should be this way for me, that that can actually create a war within you, you know. And then verse two, it says, You desire and do not have, so you murder, you covet and cannot obtain, so you fight and quarrel. You do not have because you do not ask. So there's a big one right there, right? It's like, uh, okay, you could try asking God instead of you know uh wrestling your way into this thing. But then in verse three, for the people who go, okay, I'm gonna ask God, no problem. Verse three comes along, well, you ask and you do not receive, because you ask wrongly to spend it on your passions, and uh King James says that you might consume it upon your own lust. Um, this here to me is one of the big things like motive. If you don't ever clear up the issue of motive in your life, especially concerning what you think you're called to do, if you don't clear up that issue of motive, I promise you, it will be the block, it will be the roadblock uh that you can't get around. Because I'm I'm telling you, unless your motives are right, there's only a certain amount of success that you'll be able to attain in whatever you you believe you're called to do. If you're doing it for a motive that doesn't have uh doesn't come from God or is not a pure motive, a selfless motive, not for your own personal uh gain, not for for you to feel important. I I can't believe how uh how so many people fall victim to that. And I've I've felt victim to it before myself at times. It's like I want to be important, you know, that whole thing like that. It uh I don't know, man. It's it's like this this idea that if we don't have a title, if we don't have something official we're doing with a I don't know, 501c3 behind it or whatever it is, that it, you know, that it's not enough for us to be for us to think that we're being called by God. And dude, we got to get rid of all of that. We got to get rid of all that way of thinking that it has to be some big bombastic extravagant thing, or else it's not our you know, God's plan for our life, and therefore we're frustrated. Um, your motive has to be right because if you're doing all the right things for all the wrong reasons, you're gonna be ending up the same way Jesus talked about, I think it was Matthew 7. He said, Many are gonna come to me that day and say, Lord, Lord, didn't we cast out devils in your name? You know, didn't we uh uh whatever, heal the sick or whatever in your name? And he's gonna say, Well, yeah, but I never knew you. Depart from me, you who work in iniquity. So again, if it's not done for the right motive, uh it will produce frustration because you're not gonna get so far. He said he resists the proud. Yeah, and sometimes we may think that we got to bind the devil and all this stuff like that because you know we can't make progress. Sometimes it ain't the devil. God said, I resist the proud. If you've got you know undealt with pride in your heart, you're going to run into a wall. And yes, it will be frustrating. But the question we have to ask at that point is, okay, God, where am I in pride about this? Am I really being honest with myself about this thing? Or am I faking it enough to convince myself that I'm doing something right and all this stuff like that? You got to get beyond all that and get down to the brass tacks because God said, I desire truth in the inward parts.

David McIntyre 51:26

The inward parts.

Phillip Rich 51:32

Man, so now I have talked a lot, David. So you please go ahead.

The Parable Of The Soil: Check Your Roots

David McIntyre 51:36

No, that's I and I just want to touch on one other thing, and maybe we'll continue on with it next week. There are a lot of you out there that are mad at God. You're mad at God for some various and sundry reasons. Mostly we get mad at God when we lose a loved one that we feel like we shouldn't have, or when situations and circumstances happen that we feel like we don't deserve or shouldn't be in. Um I'm not gonna sit here and pretend to know why you're in the situation you're in. I don't necessarily know why two people can have cancer and one of them is healed from it, and the other one goes on to be with the Lord. The one thing that I do know is that when you are in Christ, either way you get to be in the Lord. The Bible says to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. And you know, I remember when my grandmother died, and I was I was so sure that when my wife and I went to North Carolina while she was in the hospital, I was confident my it seems like my faith was so high, and I believed that when I prayed for my grandmother, that she was gonna make it. And she didn't. And I wondered why, but what I began to learn was regardless of the why, my grandmother is well taken care of. She believed God and she trusted him. So, based upon what I believe, she is in the better place than I am. And I began to trust in the fact that my grandma is not gone, like I'll never see her again. I know that I'll meet her again, yeah, and it will be a glorious journey. Somebody in the comment section said people are being beheaded as we speak due to cartel wars. Where's their help? Well, the Bible says that the Lord is a very present help in a time of trouble. He never said that when these kinds of things came, that we could always expect him to deliver him. We can believe that he will, but the Lord's plans are the Lord's plans. It doesn't mean that he is an evil God because these bad things happen. Because you know what? People have choices that they have to make too, and the people cutting off people's heads have just as much choice as the person who's sitting there who refuses to deny Christ. But what I do know is that based upon the word of God, first of all, there's a special place for that person who is made a martyr. And the other thing that I know of, because the word tells me, is that the blood of the martyrs is not only collected, but it's crying out to God. And there will be vengeance for that martyr's blood, those martyrs' blood. So I don't have an exact answer of why God allows some of the things to happen that happen. But what I refuse to say is that he's not a good God. I just refuse to say that because he is good. I've had experiences with him in my life, and I can't say anything else but the fact that he is good. I pray for my brothers and sisters who are persecuted all over this world. I don't know all of their outcomes, and I don't often know exactly who specifically I'm praying for, but I pray for them. And then I pray that the Lord will have vengeance for those who have been martyred, and that day will come. So our issue isn't to be at odds with God, but to determine whether or not we're going to continue to trust him despite all that we see that's going on in this world. Just think about it. People are murdered just for the very reasons Philip read in James chapter four. Am I to just hate God at that point and just turn my back on him, the savior of my life, and say something's wrong with him. I'll never serve him. When the reality is over and over in the Bible, it says that he's good. And I've seen it demonstrated in my life. Philip, do you have a thought on that?

Phillip Rich 56:48

Didn't realize I was on mute. Um, you know, we we don't have the answers. We don't have all the answers in this life. The Bible says in 1 Corinthians 13, we know in part.

David McIntyre 57:01

Yeah.

Phillip Rich 57:02

You know, there's there's certain things that I don't know if anybody's gonna be able to figure out on this side of heaven. Period. Um, but like David said, the one thing that we always can be encouraged to do is trust God to know he's good, to know his character and nature of good. And let us not forget, just in case, let us not forget that there is an enemy very highly operative in this planet.

David McIntyre 57:25

Roams about like a lion seeking whom he may destroy.

Phillip Rich 57:29

First Peter 5 talks about him. Uh, it says, Your adversary, the devil, roams about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour. So uh it also says in John 10 that the the enemy, the thief, comes to still kill, and destroy. But Jesus said, I came that you may have life and have it more abundantly. That's John 10, verse 10. So if uh we want to see who's responsible for stealing, killing, and destroying, it's very plainly laid out in the scripture. The enemy, the thief, the devil, comes to steal, kill, and destroy. But Jesus came so we could have life and have it more abundantly. Um, and and I think it's in Isaiah, maybe Isaiah 54, where God says, They may gather together, but it's not by me. Talking about the enemies, you know, the enemies may gather together, but it's not by me, it's not coming from me. And he said, Whoever will gather together against you will fall for your sake. And so we've seen, you know, there's there's there's cases where we've seen people uh get martyred, and they were willing to be martyred, you know, because they they considered it to be an honor to die for their faith.

David McIntyre 58:42

11 of the 12 disciples, yeah.

Phillip Rich 58:45

I mean, it didn't end well for hardly any of those guys, honestly, not naturally. Uh and even with John, you know, they couldn't figure out what to do with him, so they just banished him to an island, you know. So it was like he was the only one that was that was able to die a natural death. But um, you know, I I don't even want to pretend like I have all the answers to that, but I do know that um the word of God is clear about these things. There is an enemy active in the earth, he steals, kills, and destroys. Uh, in first John 5, uh it says, I think in verse 19, it says, the whole world lies under the power of the evil one. This whole world system we're in, the the type of world system that produces drug cartels, evil people trafficking kids, all that kind of that's all under the the the jurisdiction of the evil one. But the good news is those of us who know who Jesus is, Colossians 1:13, God has delivered us from the power and jurisdiction of darkness. Um, there's that whole thing there, and we have to, as believers, know our covenant rights, know what we have access to, because Satan can take advantage of our ignorance. If we don't know these things, he can take advantage of our ignorance. Um, so just some thoughts there. I I'm I may have rambled a little bit, but um, you didn't. You know, we we I again I don't pretend to know the answers, none of us do to all those types of things, but I do trust God, I do believe He's good, and I and I will put my own whole life on those facts. That's for sure.

David McIntyre 1:00:23

One of the things we have to stop doing is trying to use the fact that something bad happened to somebody as the litmus test to determine whether God is good, right? Because it is it it can't be a litmus test, yeah, it can't, and we can't use that as our excuse for why we won't follow God. Because in the end of all things, when we all have to stand before Him, you're gonna say to God, the reason I didn't follow you was because this happened to Timmy when I was seven. And God's gonna be like, But did you know me? Because at that moment, the reason why that happened to Timmy won't matter. What will matter is whether you knew him for yourself, and so we have to be very careful, we have to be very cautious, and you know what? It's okay to ask the Lord questions. I don't want you to think that what we're saying is don't ask God questions. It's okay to ask God why, it's okay to want to understand. God gets it and he understands that about us, and I even think he expects it from us when we're being honest with him. So I would rather I would rather you take that question and take that question to God with an honest, contrite heart and allow God to speak to you for answers to that question. Yes, yes, I agree. I'm exhausted.

Phillip Rich 1:01:57

I'm totally mad. We we left it all on the table. Praise God, right?

David McIntyre 1:02:03

We love y'all and we want the best for you, and we're here to tell you God is good, and we're telling you that you don't have to live an angry life, you can simply live the purpose that's laid out in the word, and you'll be in a very good place. But what I'm sure of is that in the in the path of living out that purpose, you'll naturally find your steps are ordered exactly to the way that you should go. And God has a wonderful way of doing that. You know, one of the things he says in First Corinthians, I think it's chapter 12, is he begins to lay out how we're all parts of the body of Christ. And some of us are fingers, some of us are eyes, some of us are toes, some of us are abdomens, and all that good stuff. We'll find our way, we'll find our way, don't get discouraged, don't get disappointed, and definitely don't get angry about it. Remember, it says that the the anger of man does not work the righteousness of God, right? And so don't get angry about it. Begin to dig into the word, begin to seek him, begin to just spend time with him, not looking for anything except to know him better, and just walk it out, and everything will be okay. Yeah, all right. That's it for this episode. We're praying for y'all. Um, yeah, we're praying for y'all. Amen. And uh, we want the best for you. We're your brothers in Christ, and we believe God will give you his best. And uh, no matter the situation or circumstance, we're never alone. All right, join us on social media. We're on TikTok, we're on Instagram, we're here on YouTube. You can find us on Rumble. You can even find us on good old Yield Facebook. That's right. Remember to like and subscribe to the pod to this podcast to uh this channel on YouTube and on Rumble. And uh remember the actual live episode goes live every Monday morning at I believe 5 or 6 a.m. So you can catch this episode back up. It'll be a little edited and tightened up, but hey, um it'll still be just as good. All right, until next time, I'm David. He's Philip. That's John, and we are graced justly out.