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Bible, Bros, & Brew is all about helping you navigate your relationship with God in practical, real-life ways. Hosts David and Phil dig into scripture—'chopping up the word'—and bring it to life with insights you can actually use every day. And while they’re at it, they share their favorite 'brews'—don’t worry, it’s not booze! Just a solid lineup of classic coffees and teas to keep the conversations flowing.
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Why Submission Gets a Bad Rap and What the Bible Really Says | Bible, Bros & Brew
The word “submission” gets a bad rap in today’s culture — and for good reason. Many have misused it as a tool for control, dominance, or manipulation. But the Bible paints a very different picture. In Scripture, submission is not weakness, inferiority, or becoming someone’s doormat. It is a powerful, purposeful, God-designed posture that leads to authentic humility, spiritual growth, and divine honor.
In this episode, David & Phil open the Scriptures to show how submission and humility are inseparable, why God calls every believer to “clothe themselves in humility,” and how practicing biblical submission can transform your relationships, your spiritual life, and even your emotional health.
You’ll learn:
-The true meaning of the Greek word hupotassō
-Why submission precedes humility
-How Jesus modeled the ultimate act of submission
-Why God “resists the proud” but pours grace on the humble
-The difference between false humility and genuine servanthood
-Why biblical submission is mutual before it’s marital
-How pride blocks spiritual progress
-What it means to “put on the servant’s garment” every day
So grab your Bible, notebook, and favorite cup of coffee or tea — and let’s explore this powerful, often-misunderstood biblical principle together.
📘 Be sure to download the Study Guide for this episode
00:00 — Intro: Why “submission” is a triggering word
01:20 — What’s In the Cup? Coffee blends & holiday debates
10:00 — “Bros & Broettes” clarified
14:30 — Christmas tree trauma + lighting preferences
16:40 — Back into the topic: What humility really means
17:00 — Getting low: humility as dependence on God
18:20 — False humility vs. genuine humility
20:30 — Pride’s deception and consequences
21:20 — God resisting the proud (Greek word breakdown)
23:00 — Does God use sickness to correct us?
27:10 — How God corrects His children
31:00 — When pride leads to suffering
32:40 — Proverbs 18:12 — honor on the other side of humility
34:10 — Clothing yourself in humility (1 Peter 5)
36:30 — Jesus took on the form of a servant (Philippians 2)
39:00 — Daily humility: putting it on like clothing
41:10 — The controversial truth: submission leads the way
43:00 — Word study: hupotassō — “under God’s arrangement”
47:00 — Submission in relationships & marriage
51:00 — Selfishness versus servanthood
56:30 — God gives the increase — not you
58:30 — Final encouragement + prayer
59:40 — Outro + how to get the Study Guide
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On this episode of Bible Bros and Brew, I just want to say forgive me upfront, because we're going to talk about something that is a bit of a dirty word in the Christian language. Um people have fought over it, marriages have ended over it, and friendships have unfriended over this topic and over this specifically this word. But we're going to uh deconstruct it for you and help you to understand it and how it fits into the concept of pride versus humility up next on Bible Bros and Brew. Welcome to this episode of Bible Bros and Brew. I'm David with me tonight. My main G, Philip Rich. Down below us are the other G's, Ryan Holdman, and spinning the wheels of steel tonight on the ones and twos, our producer John. Man, we're so glad that you guys have joined us tonight. Do us a favor and take a minute and like and subscribe to the podcast. You can do that on any platform that you're watching or listening on. But we'd love to connect with you uh long form and long term. Uh so make sure you like and subscribe to the podcast. We've got a great episode for you tonight. As you know, we've been talking about pride and we switched over into the antidote for pride, which is humility. And so for the last couple of weeks, we've been talking about humility. And last week we talked about this concept of putting on the servant's garment, to put on that servant's robe, that apron that allows you to put yourself in position to be a servant to all. And really, it kind of signifies the concept that uh you put yourself last and put others first in front of you as a form of humility, and that in doing so, what happens is that God exalts you in the appropriate time. So it's uh if you haven't listened to the last couple of episodes of Bible Bros and Brew, let me just encourage you to do so. I think you'll find them both instructive and informative and helpful for your spiritual growth. This week we're gonna talk about something else because we saw a little thread that popped up in the scripture, and this is the reason why Philip and I are always telling you guys to become students of the word. I saw something in the word uh that we're gonna talk about tonight that in all the years of reading the scripture I've never seen. And that's just what kind of happens as you're studying and digging into the word. Um, our old pastor used to say the word is pregnant, it's it's rich. There, you you can't you can't stop going into it and not pulling out something that you didn't see before, you didn't recognize. And it's like, yeah, I had to have, I literally had to have seen it before because I have read this scripture before, but the understanding of what this part means or a revelation about it, that's new, and it's what helps to feed you and feed your excitement for the word. And let me tell you, in the world that we live in today, you've got to know the word for yourself, you've got to understand it for yourself, you've got to digest it for yourself, and you've got to feed yourself. You can't just wait till you get to church on Sunday and let that be the only feeding you do. And quite frankly, even as much as I love our podcast, our podcast alone cannot feed you everything you need. The Bible says to meditate on the word day and night, and that's what we all ought to make the effort to do. A little reading in the morning time, a little reading at the night time, maybe when you get up and when you go to bed, and let that be a part of feeding you. And then you take in some other good stuff that you know that you can trust, and it becomes the bedrock of your life. That's enough about that. Before we get into what we're gonna talk about tonight, let's dig into this oh big old concept of what's in the cup. Let's talk about it. Phillip, what are you drinking tonight?
SPEAKER_00:Well, you know, I try to mix it up here on Bible Bros and Brew, as you guys are very well aware.
SPEAKER_08:Um, you know, peregrine by mix it up, he means various flavors of peregrine.
SPEAKER_00:Right exactly. But this this time around, I took a bit more of a literal approach to mixing it up because I have a decaf called Caldi's Coffee, and the decaf is called Dancing Goats. Uh good stuff, and but I didn't want to go full decaf because I wanted to have a little bit more awesome flavor, so I did some Columbia from Peregrine mixed in decaf. So it's kind of uh you know, it's kind of a hybrid situation here, but I I'm I'm enjoying it, man. It's uh it's it's doing me right.
SPEAKER_08:So I'm glad you mentioned that because I too mix coffees at home. Yeah, so if you if you do that, more power to you in your exploration of the deeper taste.
SPEAKER_02:Wow, yes.
SPEAKER_08:All right, uh John. Uh John and I had a discussion earlier this week because John wanted to bring out Christmas coffee.
SPEAKER_05:Oh snap. This is but I wanted to honor you, Mr. David. I wanted to honor, I guess, whatever week we are in November. Um, so I pulled out like a Graham Cracker, maple, something. Uh a few weeks ago I had like a bag from Aldi that was really cool, and it was like very like s'mores themed. Uh, this is that other half. This is that part two coffee uh that I wanted to try. And now that we're talking about mixing it, to be honest with you, next week I might even just mix both of the coffees together. You get a little s'mores graham cracker action going on.
SPEAKER_04:Come on, finish off the fall season, even though I very badly want to pull out all of my Christmas, all of my Christmas coffee.
SPEAKER_08:Um, I don't think you're ready, but I can I can tell you right now from the look on Ryan's face earlier, he had already judged you.
SPEAKER_07:Well, I can't see this is why you can't do the pumpkin spice too early because you do the pumpkin spice too early, and then oh, we're tired of pumpkin. It's still pumpkin season. Thanksgiving hasn't even come yet. It's where you have pumpkin pie.
SPEAKER_05:No, I don't think you get it. I don't think you get it. You start celebrating Christmas as soon as Halloween is over, right? October's your pumpkin season. Christmas happens November 1st, right? You take yourself a little break during Thanksgiving week.
SPEAKER_06:One minute, please.
SPEAKER_05:I don't know why.
SPEAKER_07:Like seriously I wanted to count down. Countdown. Y'all brothers can't enjoy the moment.
SPEAKER_05:I am thankful every moment of my life. I don't need a season to be thankful. I don't need a season to enjoy certain coffees. I'm thankful all the time. Praise God, hallelujah. However, there are so there's only certain weeks of the year where Georgia gets below 70 degrees, and I want to take every moment that Georgia has when this in this weather as much as I can. I want to soak it up, I want to pull out the hoodies, I want to pull out the peppermint. Come on, right, just let me have it, Ryan. Just let me have it. I'll let you drink your peace, you know.
SPEAKER_00:Okay. Uh, you know, I want to address the comment that just came in because we want everybody to know, dude, this is for bros and broettes alike. Uh, we we love it for yeah, for for for women to show up and and watch the podcast. We're all about it. You all are welcome, as we say here on Bible Bros and Brew. Um, yeah, and there was a season, and David can speak to this as well. There was a season a little while back where we had uh regular appearances from broettes even on the podcast.
SPEAKER_07:That's about that, David. We need to bring we need to bring them back.
SPEAKER_08:Yeah, yeah, we'll see if we can get them to get to bring their spirits together to come and do it with us. The bros is referring to Philip and I. Yes. Uh it's it's it's not bros like you know, bros, only four bros. You know, it's the Philip and I, or you know, we love our Bibles, we're bros, it's what we drink our brew.
SPEAKER_07:And it's what Pentecostal Christians do best, and it is alliteration.
unknown:Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_07:I have the alliteration.
SPEAKER_04:What a way to do that.
SPEAKER_08:I gotta say, Ryan, when you pulled that little white napkin out, I was finished for the day, bro.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that was pretty on point. So all right, Ryan. What are you Don?
SPEAKER_08:Do you have a final word?
SPEAKER_07:Um are you going to put up your Christmas tree? And if you say anything before Thanksgiving, you will be banned from the show. All right.
SPEAKER_08:Um the Christ the Christmas tree is different because you can put the Christmas tree up at all kinds of different times. It's it's not but then I feel like you don't enjoy the moment. You know, like some people like we used to do. We used to we would go out and get our Christmas tree the day after Thanksgiving. Yes, that's um, but you know what? We've had a couple of rough years since then, and we're like, we need some joy in our lives. So we popped that Christmas tree up and set out and put them lights on, and just said, Hey, we need some joy, let's do it.
SPEAKER_00:Well, there's there's a as a there's a debate out there. I wanted to just kind of offer this question. Uh, multicolored lights or all one light color? What kind of theme do you think is the best?
SPEAKER_02:Both.
SPEAKER_00:Both? Okay. Well, see, my wife, Stephanie, thinks that oh okay, we lost, we lost Ryan. Oh my god, uh, it's over.
SPEAKER_08:Oh wait, wait until he's in tree. What wait till he gets married? His wife is gonna be like, oh, okay, okay, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Uh dude, we we um we definitely like I'm way more multi- multicolor like person, but Stephanie likes the one color, like everything has to be on that same theme, you know, it's whether it's blue or it's a nice, you know, white or whatever. Okay, Recycled Londoner says white. Uh, it's very elegant when you do the white for sure. Um, but I you know, I grew up in the hood, so we did multi-color. I don't know what it why that connects, but it just does.
SPEAKER_08:So um, Sabrina on TikTok is saying she loves her white lights. Um, yes, one heartbeat. You used to get called tree tacky.
SPEAKER_00:Tree tacky. That's a new one, dude. Never heard of tree tacky before.
SPEAKER_08:Well, there was a time where she would just throw everything on that tree. It was like Frank's Red Hot, you know. I put that crap on everything.
SPEAKER_02:The the tree was the hot dog, and they were putting everything on that hot dog.
SPEAKER_00:We had we had a season where that was happening where any and everything that we could find, we put on the tree, you know.
SPEAKER_05:Wow. Listen, guys, every hot dog gets only two two toppings. That's it. You don't need to do all that.
SPEAKER_08:Okay, now you're very you're varying off the topic. We can't even talk to you right now.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, we oh goodness, man. That's a whole other conversation. That's how you should treat your Christmas tree, right?
SPEAKER_08:All right, I will tell you that we have uh we have a balsam heels tree. Oh boy, yes, on our channel. How dare you tell people? It is a be it's a beautiful tree, and it has lasted us several years, but it has both the ability for white lights and colored lights all in one. Okay, so sometimes we do white and sometimes we switch it over to colored.
SPEAKER_07:Oh, okay. Okay, that I'm cool with.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, all right, but yeah, that's good. But the the blend is what was was uh was giving Ryan some Pts D.
SPEAKER_07:I'm thinking you're putting two strands of different lights on there.
SPEAKER_05:Ryan, uh, can I say something? I hate, I'm sorry that I interrupted. I want I want in one night to experience your ghost of Christmas past, ghost of Christmas present, yet to come. I want to see who hurt you, and I want to see healing, I want to see revival, and I want to see the Christmas lights before Thanksgiving. Look how dark your room is right now. There's nothing, no lights, nothing. Light up a tree, dude. Come on, man.
SPEAKER_08:He likes his room like he likes his coffee dark.
SPEAKER_07:Hold on, I got you. All right, it's well normally when I film here, it's like the sun is still out, but now that it's like winter time, there we go. Yeah, daylight savings. There we go.
SPEAKER_08:All right, uh Ryan, what are you drinking tonight? We forgot that we were doing that, huh?
SPEAKER_00:Sure, Pete's oh nice, hey man. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. That's all I gotta say.
SPEAKER_04:So Uncle Philip.
SPEAKER_08:Only Philip would say that.
SPEAKER_05:Right. 50,000 miles on this one, right?
SPEAKER_08:All right, tonight. I am rocking. I went back into the fall uh after John's um communication with me earlier in the week. I made sure I stayed in fall, so I went back and got the sweetie pie. This is the uh pumpkin pie from uh Paramount Coffee, and again, I enjoy it immensely. It makes me feel extremely conversational.
SPEAKER_07:You are in the moment, you're living the moment, you're being present, you're not trying to skip to the next season, you're not trying to live in the future, you're just trying to live now.
SPEAKER_08:See, yeah, but next week I may have a sugar cookie, but I may not because I don't want to be in trouble with Ryan. So you if you just well, and we've got all winter for the holiday Christmas drinks, true, right?
SPEAKER_05:300 time zones away from us, so we're already in Christmas, by the way.
SPEAKER_08:I know you're still celebrating, but we're we're by time zone, we're already at Christmas, right?
SPEAKER_04:All right, there were flurries the other day, and yeah, that's true.
SPEAKER_08:All right, that's what's in the cup for us now. We're gonna jump into the word and uh talk a little bit about this, uh, a little bit more about humility. You know, we we talked about as we've talked about humility over the last couple of weeks. Um, one of the ways that we've defined humility is we talked about how when you look at the uh Strong's Concordance and you look at some of the Bible dictionaries, that uh one of the one of the primary communications around humility is this concept of getting low or going low um to be depressed. And we even talked about, I think it was maybe last week, could have been the week before, that there's basically two ways that you know you can be humbled. You can be humbled by God or through your circumstances, or you can do the hard work yourself and humble yourself. Uh, but no matter what, our objective is to get low. And we even talked about how what real humility was is being fully dependent upon God, leaning fully into God, and knowing that God reciprocates when we lean into Him, that He fully leans back into us with resource and supply for our needs. And so as we've looked at humility, we've seen that first of all, it is not this uber deep, uber complicated, uh unaccessible concept, but it is a real and genuine concept that says if you want to go high, you have to first get low. And you have to get way low, and then you don't you it's the wrong, it's the wrong mindset. You're not operating in the mindset of true humility if you're saying, Well, I'm going to get low in order for God to lift me up, because that's what we talked about last week, where we talked about a false humility, where you do things to call it humility, to call it piety, to do all of that stuff. But the reality is that it's not genuine, it's not real, and it's not like we can fool God between false humility and genuine and real humility. But genuine and real humility is I keep going back to it because I just love the picture that it paints. It's the man called to the dinner, and I think it's the book of Luke, and in being called to the dinner, you know, one of the instructions that was given was you know, don't go and sit at the best table in the house because you may get embarrassed and be told to move. Rather, go to the lowest of table and be invited up into the highest, and you'll be honored, and everybody will see that that happens. And it's this place that we all have to get to. Um, you know, in my life, this series that we've been doing has been life-changing because what it is revealed in me is sometimes where I've been operating in false humility, it's revealed to me and in me, and I've seen it. Times where I became the god of my own life and made my own decisions about how things would be, and then get to a place of suffering and trying to figure out how I got here, only to realize that it was your pride that got you here. It was your decision that you were more important, what you thought, how you felt, and what you were going to do was more important than what God wanted for you. And as a consequence, when you go that path, inevitably suffering comes and things don't work out well for you because you're on somebody else's track other than what God wants for you. And so this week we want to talk a little bit more about humility, but humility has a dance partner, and um I can't wait to get into it with you. But before I do that, Philip, what are you you what are you thinking about the last couple of weeks of talking about humility and what stands out to you?
SPEAKER_00:Um, well, first of all, apologize for the choppiness on the video, not sure what's going on with that. So uh I promise I don't actually move uh this way. But um, but as far as alien, it's like is he Max Headroom, you know. Um anyway, that's that's 80s talk there, sorry. Yeah, but uh now it this yeah, as we've been studying on pride and versus humility, and I've been thinking about these different things um and how they're kind of like the I mean they're all they're polar opposites basically. And when it says in James 5 that God resists the proud but gives grace to the humble, um I don't know that we have fully grasped what that you know the the reality of that and what really kind of hits you when or what hit me anyway when it says God resists the proud. Now in the king in the King James it says the word resist, but uh if you look up in the Greek, that word resist means to set yourself against somebody or to become an opposing force. And I was like, wow, God like literally will become an opposing force or set themselves against those who are proud. And I thought about how does that work in the the life of a Christian? Because when you think about it, we hear all the scriptures about, you know, if God be for you, who can be against you? And we know God's on our side and God is our helper. And but then we get this other part that says he will resist the proud. And I'm like, well, if I'm operating in pride, there's a good chance that that uh I might not be able to put to progress like I want to progress in whatever I'm trying to do, because out of the mercy of God, he won't allow me to get further. And and I think that if we look at pride that like if you look at that scripture that way, it keeps you from thinking that God has somehow become an enemy to you. It's not really even that. It's actually that he's having mercy on you. Because if you continue in that pride, it's gonna inevitably end up, as Proverbs talks about, pride goes before destruction and a haughty spirit before a fall. So what looks like him setting up a barrier maybe to your progress actually could be his mercy to keep you from going further in a way that's actually against uh what his desire for you is. And we all know that pride can never end up in a good place in the life of a believer. You're not gonna uh end up in a a good result when you're using bad means to get there. So um that I don't know, David, that just kind of stood out to me. It's like, man, you know, operating in pride as a believer, uh it's you're setting up unnecessary barriers for yourself when you do that.
SPEAKER_08:Yeah, you know, it made me think of that scripture, you know, where it says whom the Lord loves, he corrects.
SPEAKER_00:Yes.
SPEAKER_08:Or he the King James says he chastens. And um, you know, it's I I think we have to get past the deception that just because you're Christian, it doesn't mean yeah, is that Hebrews 12, 6, Ryan? Yeah, because what's the what's the King James of that? There it is. To whom the Lord loves, he chastens and uh scourges many well, I can't read it, it's too small. I'm trying with everything I got, and I have my glasses on too. Thank you. For whom the Lord loves, he chastens and scourges every son whom he receives. I think we have to get past this deception, and I think it's one that I've lived in for far too many years, and it is just this concept that God loves, loves, loves, loves, loves, loves, loves me, and he would never, never, never, never correct me. And um man, did I have it wrong? Yeah, and uh sometimes we blame the correction of God on the devil, and like it wasn't the devil that caused it, it was you. Yeah, you did that when you when you said you were gonna go your own way, and that it, you know, it was by the might of your hand that this and this and that has happened, and so we have we have to just realize that even as believers, God corrects us, and the reason that he corrects us, um, it even spanks your little tukas is because he desires to see better for you. Yeah, you know, if you never if you always let your kids just indulge in whatever it is they wanted to do, and you never corrected them someday when they were badly hurt or even worse happened to them, um you'd feel a great you'd feel a great deal of um of remorse about that. So um I think that's a great question, uh Recycled Londoner. So sickness is a correctness. Nope, I don't think God puts sickness on people as a means to adjust their behavior. I think the correction of the Lord is when things don't work out the way that you wanted them to, when things stop working, when it feels like you're not making any progress anymore and you can't seem to find out why. Um it's the hagg eye moment that, you know, are you are you spending with, you know, with pockets that were full, but they're empty. You know, you don't have the resources you need anymore. I think that the door opens for the thing that you wanted to happen the way you wanted it to happen. And you find out that what you wanted wasn't fruitful. Whereas when it comes to things like sickness, I don't believe that God puts sickness on people. Um, I believe that sickness is a part of this world and it's a part of this life and having a human body. The more that we do to protect ourselves from sickness, the better we are. But when sickness comes, then it opens the door for an opportunity for us to engage the Lord in our sickness and say, like he says in Isaiah 53, by his stripes I am healed. Or like it talks about in, I believe, Malachi, where it says that uh the son of righteousness has arisen with healing in his wings. Or when we get to Peter, and Peter talks about the fact that he hung on the tree, and by his stripes we are healed, and then we see that Jesus' part of his ministry was going around all who were oppressed and harassed of the devil, and that would be oppressing oppression and harassment would be where I would classify sickness. I also think that mental health issues are demonic uh and not necessarily people issues, and so there's some other things like that. But if you get pregnant because you're out sleeping around, that's that's a consequence of you functioning in sin. So I I hope that clarifies. Um you want to add to that, Philip?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I think it's very very good question, very important question, because um, what happens a lot of times is if if someone's unclear about how did this sickness come upon me, if they have an idea that God gave it to them or that God put it on them, then it's almost like to fight against it would be to fight against God. You know, so that can actually open the door for the enemy to come in and just run roughshod over you. Um, I I I always go back to what Jesus said in John 14 when he was talking to Philip, which not me, but uh another Philip. Um, he said, uh, because Philip asked Jesus, he was like, Hey, you know what, Jesus, just show us the Father and that will suffice for us. And Jesus said, Look, Philip, I've been with you for the past however many long years. Uh, he that has seen me has seen the father. He was saying, If you've seen what I I've done over this past however many years it was, then you've seen what God would do because I only do what He tells me to do. I only, you know, I hear and I obey whatever He tells me to do. And all through the Gospels, everywhere you look, it says, as many as they brought to Jesus, He healed them and made them whole. So there was never a time when He refused healing for anyone. And there's also never a time that I've seen where He put sickness on a person, you know. Right. Um, so if you haven't seen Jesus do it, then the Father wouldn't do it either. And I I do know that in traditional Christianity, um, and I try to tread lightly because I don't want to, you know, hurt anybody, uh, but in traditional Christianity, there is a level of a doctrine out there that's like God will put sickness on you to teach you something, you know. Right. And um, but we have to remember, oh, we've heard it many times before, but um, the Holy Spirit's the teacher. Um that's that's who Jesus sent to teach was the Holy Spirit. He didn't send adverse horrible circumstances to teach. Uh now, can can you learn something out of an adverse horrible circumstance? Yes. You know, if if you can trace back and see, oh okay, maybe a decision I made or something like that that possibly opened the door for this, hey, you're all the better for it. But let's, you know, I I think it's important to stick with what God's word says as to what is actually the teacher in our life or who the teacher is in our life, and that is the Holy Spirit. Um, very, very important to get those things in your mind because a lot of times if you if if you're uncertain about it, that can be room for the enemy to come in and take advantage of that.
SPEAKER_08:Yes, and let me tell you, he will. Yeah, he will if you let him. So I hope that helps. So tonight, I want to first of all, I want to introduce a scripture to us that will kind of be a little bit of a bridge. Um, not a little bit, it's a bridge between um what we've been talking about with pride and where we are with humility. If you look at Proverbs chapter 18, verse 12, it says haughtiness goes before destruction, but humility precedes honor. Let's look at the New Living Translation of that one, right? Oh, that is it. Okay, great, great, great. So we see that haughtiness or other translations will say pride goes before destruction, but humility precedes honor. So we see that even as we've been having this conversation, um we've been we're we're talking on two sides, if you would, a seesaw, right? And pride is on one side of the seesaw, and humility is on the other side of that seesaw. And let me tell you, uh humility loves to be on the low end and give the joy to pride, which loves to be on the high end. But it's always funny that pride thinks that it's in the greatest position, but humility knows that it's in the right position. And so as we look at this, uh last week we looked at first Peter chapter five, uh verses five uh through seven. We looked at five through eleven, I think. But let's pull that back up because we found something interesting here, and we're we're going to um we're gonna bring out a little something strong here in a minute. If you uh look at First Peter five, um, it says, in the same way, you who are younger must accept the authority of the elders, and all you dress yourselves in humility as you relate to one another. For God opposes the proud, which you heard Philip share earlier, but gives grace to the humble. And we talked about the concept of dressing yourself in humility when we were last together, and you know, it's something very interesting that popped up that as you look at uh that just keep that in mind that we clothe ourselves in humility, and we talked last week that that was about the concept of clothing yourself in humility is putting on your servants' garments, putting on your servants' apron in order to serve others. Now, I want to take us over to Philippians chapter two. And if we look over at Philippians chapter two, if we read starting in, I'm just gonna read starting at verse five. It says, Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus, who being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God. Listen to this verse seven, but made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the and was made in the likeness of men. And you know that caught my eye in verse seven, that he took on the form of a servant. I would I would submit to you that taking on the form of a servant is the same as putting on your servant's garb. Because we know that Jesus was made in the image of man. So it by itself being made in the image of man doesn't tell me that you were born, that you were, that you've uh put on the servant, the form of a servant. But then when I see that you specifically put on the form of a servant, what that communicates to me is just like we just read in 1 Peter 5, that he dressed himself in humility, that he clothed himself in the garment of a servant. And that is just a little pickup from last week. That is the same thing that we're all supposed to be doing as well, clothing ourselves in the servant's garment, so that we live lives as Christians, where we are living to serve and be of use and help to one another rather than trying to make our way in places where, quite frankly, pride awaits us, not necessarily the servanthood of God. Philip, what's your thought?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, um, I think uh, well, in 1 Peter 5, when it talks about to be clothed with humility, um, I think it's 1 Peter 5, but uh I know it says it there, and I think it also says it in Colossians that um we should have humbleness of mind uh to put that on like a garment, put humbleness of mind on like a garment. And I think it's Colossians 3 when it talks about that. Um so it's it's this idea of uh making a purposeful decision to do something. Because when you think about it, if if it's saying put it on like clothing, uh nobody wakes up and then clothes just jump on you, right? It's something you have to put you have to make a decision to go to the closet or to your dresser or whatever and get your clothes out, put them on. So it's a voluntary act on your part, you know. Um, to me, that's the same thing here. It's something where you have to decide, I am going to operate this way. You know, it it takes you you can't fully expect for it to just kind of naturally happen. It's something that requires intention. And of course, you know, prayer asks the Holy Spirit to help you, to show you how you can become a servant more uh to the people around you, show you ways that you can give and serve and be more selfless. Um, but then ultimately it's up to you to decide to take those actions and do that. And to me, that is that act of putting on uh humility, it's that decision that you'd make to go ahead and and act out in those kinds of ways, right?
SPEAKER_08:And you know what, Philip, I I even um maybe wrongly, but you know, it's like if we read the Bible, we are we are we are to be clothed with several things. We're to put on the armor of light, we're to put on the full armor of God, and then we're also to clothe ourselves with humility. Uh, we're supposed to have the mind of Christ and allow the wisdom of God to be formed within us. And um, you know, we are a getting dressed sequence from any superhero movie as a Christian, and we should be putting these things on daily. And I'm I'm I am you guys, and hear me when I say I've been at this for I don't know how many years.
SPEAKER_00:Oh my goodness, close to close to 30, I think.
SPEAKER_08:Yeah, we've been at this for a while, yeah, and just to realize that I'm just now for the first time, every day thinking about clothing myself in humility, right? Dude, you know, and I'm like, why in the world did it take me 30 years to get here? And and you know, it's like I I think it comes down to the fact that when you're allowing God to work in your life, we have a lot of stuff, yes, and there's stuff that's happening, there's stuff that uh happens that you didn't expect, there's stuff that's ongoing in your life, and God is working through it, and as you live your life, what it doesn't feel like is it doesn't feel like God is in some all-fired hurry to get you all cleaned up real quick, right? That's true, he's working through the process and taking you through step by step by step. But here I am, I'm I'm 50 odd years old, and I'm just now thinking every day about clothing myself in humility so I can be more of what God wants, and then recognizing how like Christ that allows us to become, because Christ already demonstrated it as we saw in um in uh whatever that verse was, we were just looking at um Philippians, 2nd Philippians, not 2nd Philippians, uh, but in Philippians, you know, we were looking at it there, and we see that Christ did that from the jump, from the very beginning, he showed up clothing himself uh in the garments of a servant and taking on the form of man, and so we need to have that perspective, and and now that leads to uh the next part that we want to talk about is that in other words, what that communicates to me is that Jesus got low from the very beginning, and not only did he humble himself, but he submitted himself to God's will. And I I want to make a statement, and I hope that you'll hear it, and it is that to add another layer to this submission, I believe, precedes uh humility. Submission precedes humility. Now, let's um now, in one sense, you could say that kind of all happened at the same time, because when Nebuchadnezzar got humbled uh and was a wild animal, you know, out in the woods, you know, at some point he finally submitted himself, and that's when the Lord came in and did what he did. We see that with the prodigal son, which we looked at several weeks ago, the prodigal son finally gave up and said, I can eat better than this at my father's house. I'll go there and work in the pig pens and serve him. You know, everybody has this point where they have to submit themselves and to return to that place. And if let's look at um, let's look at a little bit more scripture here and let me let me try to validate that for you. Um first of all, by looking at this word uh submit. Um Ryan, if you will, let's look at um Philip, what was the first scripture I gave you? Was it first Peter 5?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah. Because it says be subject one to another. Um yeah, that translation says accept the authority, but I think it's different in other translations there.
SPEAKER_08:Right. So in verse five, chapter uh verse five there in First Peter, uh Ryan, let's let's um first of all, let's look at the verse real quick. This first Peter is kind of rich with good stuff in it. Um verse five says in the same way, you who are younger must accept the authority of elders, and all of you uh dress yourselves in humility. This one says, as you relate to one another. Um, but if you look at the King James, I believe, Ryan. I was about to say, don't you dare scroll up and show me that it's the King James. Uh in verse 5, it says, be subject to one another and be clothed with humility, for God resists the proud and gives grace to the humble. Let's look up that word there, subject, you know, because it basically is asking us to submit ourselves one to another, right? That and even even though there are elders who are the authority, and he's speaking to these young men and saying, You young men, respect these elders, respect these people who have not only the authority, but they've been given this position of authority, so further respect it, right? And then he takes it a step further, and then he says, All of you, elder and younger, submit to one another, yeah, right? And so if we look at this word submit, um, who potasso from the Greek, uh, we see that it has a couple of things here to be under obedience, to put under sub to subdue unto, to subject, to be put in subjection to, to submit yourself unto. Right? And so it all of it comes back to what I said was gonna be that ugly word that we Christians don't often like, and it's the word submission. Yeah, yeah, and that has particularly when it comes to when it comes to issues of men and women, women, this concept of submission has it's since I've been born again, it's been a fight. And it's interesting that I think if we take a jump ahead and then we'll come back to this definition, if we look at Ephesians chapter five, we'll we'll see both kind of where some of that argument comes from and debunk it, but then also see what the Lord is really asking us. Because in verse 20 it says, give thanks for everything to God the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. And then in verse 21 it says, and further submit to one another out of reverence for Christ. The first thing Jesus said when he talked about submission was the same thing he just said in 1 Peter 5, which is hey, y'all submit to one one another. Our our old pastor used to say, submit means to submission, to get under the other person's mission. And I don't think that that's incorrect. Um, you know, uh, for example, he would always say, so if her mission at that time is washing the dishes, then submit by jumping in and helping her wash the dishes. Don't take over the dishwashing process because she's in charge at that point. Your job is to be a helper in that process. But then there are going to be other times where you're going to be taking the lead and she's gonna come under your mission and help you to accomplish whatever it is that you have to. The problem comes in when you go back to Ephesians 5, just a few verses later. One of the things Jesus says to the woman right away is submit yourself to your husband, and that's when we get to the I don't know about that, you know, because if he don't, and that's not what Jesus said, Jesus didn't qualify why you should submit to your husband, he just said you should do it. But remember, he started by asking you to submit to one another, and when you are submitting to one another, individual submission becomes much easier to do because you recognize that my getting under my spouse's mission doesn't mean they're trying to lord over me, it means that I am on my way to humility because I agree to support and get under their mission. Now I'm gonna put on my servant's garb and serve my spouse in humility.
SPEAKER_00:That's good.
SPEAKER_08:And so you so you see that submission leads the way to humility. What more you want to add, Phil?
SPEAKER_00:I just wanted to, I mean, you've said it perfectly, man, as far as what the whole point of this is, because you know, we do have, and I know you've counseled many, many married couples, David, like you and your wife have uh been doing that for years and years. And I'm sure you've heard one time or another, a guy coming in and saying, telling his wife, well, the Bible says you need to submit, you know, and it's like that that's very one-sided if you don't know how to, if you didn't read up on the rest of what Jesus said and the rest of what the Holy Spirit says about this topic, because there's really no place in in biblical Christianity, there's no place for a person who's nothing but domineering and constantly lording over other people and doing it with a manipulative, controlling spirit. There's no place for that stuff in the body of Christ. That person's operating out of fear and honestly out of some level of a demonic influence. Like if you need those types of things, if you need those types of tools, quote unquote, in order to try to control people or to get them to do what you want them to do, then you're not operating in in the biblical level of authority. Uh you're you're you're buying it with some other currency that doesn't that isn't biblical. Um, and so of course it's gonna be it's it's taken the wrong way uh to try to get some results. If you do it how God actually said to do it, what happens is when each person agrees to submit to the other, and each person has the other person's best interest at heart and best interest first, then what you find is uh that that things just seem to click that way. And all of a sudden, selfishness doesn't rear its ugly head, but instead selflessness uh rules the day. And then that is something where everybody wins and everybody benefits. But if you are just coming into it one-sided and all you're concerned about is how everybody else needs to submit to you, but you don't think that returning the favor matters, uh, you've missed the whole point, and it's not even the biblical understanding of how these things are supposed to work.
SPEAKER_08:Yeah, I was I think I was sharing with you, Philip, there was a video that I saw on YouTube of a husband and wife at the altar. And and the pastor was talking about love and obey, and she was like, And she just stood there and she's like past the pastor was like, We talked about this in counseling. She said, No, we didn't. She said, We didn't talk about this in counseling. He said, You a lie, we did, and I'm like, Well, that wasn't how the service was supposed to go first of all. Uh, but it was that even at the altar, she pushed back and rejected the concept of being submitted to her husband. To me, that's a red flag, and we've got to walk away from this altar. Because there's a problem here, and that is going to be a significant problem because he had to communicate the same thing back to her, and he had already done so. He led the way in saying that I would be submitted to you, and then to just think about how ugly that could be. And so I wish I bought that video to share because, in one sense, it's funny and we're all laughing at it, but in the other sense, you realize this isn't funny, and this is gonna be a problem in their marriage for years to come. Years to come, because she'd already previously balked at the the poor the part about in not in sickness and health, but in you know, basically for richer or poor. That was that was an two. So it's like you got the double whammy working here. Wow, you you might have should have paid attention before you guys walked down this altar together. But you know, this concept of submission, Ryan. If you'll if you'll pull back up uh the and find the helps word study on that, if you go down just a little bit. There we go. One of the other things that I found was very interesting about this was that it the helps word study, it comes from the from two words, uh hupo, hypo, which means under, and tasso meaning arrange. Properly, it's under God's arrangement.
SPEAKER_00:That's good.
SPEAKER_08:Submitting to the Lord is his plan, and so I think that's an important takeaway as we talk about how submission is a part of humility or leads the way for humility. When we're talking about submitting, we're talking about being under God's arrangement, being a part of God's plan. And part of God's plan is for us to submit. If we look at um James, I believe chapter four. And Brian, um you might look this look this up for me. Uh just scroll down for just a second. Um, you adultered, keep going. So, verse seven. So humble yourselves before God, resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Come close to God, and God will come close to you. Wash your hands, you sinners, purify your heart, for your loyalty is divided between God and the world. This is why we struggle to submit. This is why we struggle to give ourselves over and take on that garment of humility, because our loyalty is divided between God and the world. Let there be tears for what you have done, let there be sorrow and deep grief, let there be sadness instead of laughter and gloom instead of joy. In other words, when we are laying down, you know, part of it is when you're laying down and submitting yourselves to God and admitting the fact that you have been prideful, that you have come up short, there's no joy in that. There's no happiness in that. That is a serious time for you to lay it all down before God and and feel the feel that which you're guilty of. But knowing that on the other side of that, because on the other side of you feeling guilty for by submitting and coming to humility, there is great joy to come. Because now when you see the rest of that verse pop up, there we go. It says, humble yourselves before the Lord, and he will lift you up in honor. And that's that's the that's the thrust of it all. We lay all the junk down, we lay all the stuff down, we even put on our servant's garb, we humble ourselves, and look, we live low. We don't just get low for a moment, we live low because it's our desire to please the Lord. And in pleasing the Lord, part of what he does is he exalts you, he lifts you up, and he blesses, and he does all that stuff. I think the other the other thing, Philip, is that I think that so many times we think that we're responsible for our blessing. I think that we think that we're the ones that go out and get it, and all of that good stuff. And I I do believe you work hard, you you work these, you know, you do the practical things, but it's God who blesses. You know, Paul talked about, you know, uh, I planted Apollos watered, but God gets the increase.
SPEAKER_00:There you go. Yeah.
SPEAKER_08:And it's it's the same, it's the same piece that even in your own lives, it doesn't matter if you're planting, it doesn't matter if you're watering, the increase belongs to the Lord. And the Lord chooses what he's going to do and how he's going to divvy out that increase in your life. And our job is to be humble and receive what the Lord gives us and know that it's going to be good.
SPEAKER_00:Absolutely. Good stuff.
SPEAKER_08:Any final thoughts, Philip?
SPEAKER_00:Um, I I I mean, to me, man, I just encourage everybody to to really think on these things. Uh look at the scriptures that we shared tonight and really just take some time and um ask God, you know, show me how I can be more of a blessing, how I can be uh someone who can um be a support to others and and be more selfless, basically. Um that's really what this boils down to. This submission thing doesn't work, and it's actually brutal on selfish people. Okay. Uh marriage is brutal on selfish people.
SPEAKER_08:Yes, Jesus, yes, Jesus, yes.
SPEAKER_00:And quite honestly, any human relationship is brutal on a selfish person, you know. But when you finally start getting out of selfishness and over into uh looking outward and saying, How can I be a blessing to other people? How can I serve other people? All of a sudden, it just starts clicking. And it's what Jesus actually said in John 13. He said, If you know these things, happy are you if you do them. I think that's one of the most profound statements he ever made, man. So um, but yeah, just wanted to share that.
SPEAKER_08:Phil, why don't you pray for everybody and let's uh put a nice little bookmark on this one tonight?
SPEAKER_00:Yes, sir. All right. Well, Father, thank you for what uh came out tonight by way of the Holy Spirit. We just give you praise for that, Father. And we pray for every person who's listening tonight. Lord, um, we don't know all the situations they're dealing with, but you do. And we ask you to give them wisdom, Lord, for whatever they're dealing with. Give them wisdom uh so that they can apply biblical principles, they can apply this principle of submission, this principle of humbling themselves uh in order to see you exalt them and you lift them up to where they need to be. And whatever they're dealing with, Father, if they've run into obstacles, they run into challenges, roadblocks, whatever it is, Lord, that you'd be with them and show them that wisdom. Give them what they need, Father, to overcome and to be um on the path that you have for them, Lord, with no hindrances, Lord. We just give you thanks for that. And we thank you, Lord, for um blessing every person who heard tonight, every person who tuned in, and for those who will uh to the recording later. We just give you praise for all this. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen.
SPEAKER_08:Amen. Thanks, Philip. You know, you guys, we are hopeful that you got something out of this tonight. Uh, we're hoping that it not only blessed you, but it actually we want to challenge you. You know, uh, you know, I want you to be blessed when you hear what. We share because the Lord's word will do that. You know, He'll add a blessing to the reading of the Scripture. But the reality is that scripture read without change. Where does it get you? And so we want to help you see life change that causes you to move from one place to the next place to the next place so that you're not a stagnant Christian, but you're a Christian that's moving and grooving and doing the work of the Lord, and you have a fruitful life because of your engagement and desire to see the Lord magnified in your life, in your community, even in your country, whatever country you may be in. We also want to thank you for uh having a cup of coffee with us tonight. Uh, we want you to take an opportunity and connect with us on social media. Uh, we are on Instagram, we're on Facebook, TikTok, all those places. Just look for Bible, Bros, and Brew. Uh A and D Brew, and you'll find us in one of those places. Don't forget you can sign up for the study guide by using the login, the uh link below. All you have to do is just provide us with your name and your email address, and we will email that out to you every Monday morning. And then don't forget to like and subscribe. We're so glad that you did. Until next time, I'm David, he's Philip, and we're out of here.
