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Humility vs Pride: Why the Bible Says Humility = Real Power | Bible, Bros & Brew

David McIntyre, Phillip Rich, Ryan Holdeman, & Jon Dzyuba Season 8 Episode 7

How does humility transform your life? In this episode of Bible , Bros & Brew, we dive into the Word — from The Bible — and uncover what true humility looks like, how it stands in contrast to pride, and how it unlocks real blessing and happiness.

🔖 What You’ll Learn:
00:00 – Intro: Pride vs Humility
10:00 – Definition: What humility is in Scripture
20:30 – Case Study: Jesus Christ washing the disciples’ feet (John 13)
30:45 – Application: How to live humility as a man of faith
40:50 – Closing thoughts & next week’s topic

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SPEAKER_00:

Over the past couple of weeks, we've been talking about the contrast between pride and humility. And we've been searching through the Bible to find scriptures that uh support these different sides of uh uh the character that you don't want, i.e., pride versus the character you do want, which is humility. And so tonight we're gonna get a little bit further on the humility side and really look at some working definitions according to what the Bible says of what humility actually is, and how can we practically implement it into our lives? So stay tuned, it's gonna be a good one. Whenever you're listening to this, to Bible Bros and Brew. My name is Philip, and of course, with me this and and I proudly wear that name. I've had it for at least 50 years. Um, but I've been I'm joined here by my bros. I want to say my partners in crime, my partners in blessing, shall we say? Um, I've got David here to hopefully I'm pointing. No, I did the wrong way. David over here. Got Ryan down there to the diagonal, and then John underneath here. And we are uh we have been discussing a very, very uh, I think maybe an overlooked topic, especially in today's um spiritual climate, if you want to call it that. And that is uh pride versus humility. I think that is one of those things that is actually a very important kind of undercurrent that runs through the Bible in a lot of different ways, especially with a lot of different stories from or accounts rather, from people who uh maybe in from the Old Testament, even in the to the New Testament, where you know, folks we see the the folks who operated in pride and got a disastrous result. And then we've also seen people who operate in in the opposite of pride, which we would would define as humility, and see God exalt them and and do great things in their lives. And so when you think about it in those terms, like pride versus humility, and also the damage that pride does versus the good that humility can do, I think it's something worth looking into and something that to say, hey, how can we practically apply the principle of walking in humility to our lives as believers? Because I I do know, according to what the word says, that in James 5, it says God resists the proud. And there's one translation that says he sets himself against the proud. I don't know about you, but I don't want to be in any kind of position where God is setting himself against me. You know, that's that's not cool. Um, but it in the tail end of that verse in James 5, it says he gives grace to the humble. So there's those two um, I guess two sides of the same coin, if you want to put it that way. Um, if you operate in pride, expect for some level of resistance and a disastrous result eventually. Or if you operate in humility, you can expect God to come through and do amazing things because humility definitely keeps you more in alignment with him. But um, before we get too deep into the water, let's go ahead and do our famous question that we love to kick off the our episodes with, and that is, of course, what is in the cup? Oh, we need some kind of like drum roll, don't we, man? It'd be pretty cool. Um, but yes, so let me see. Hold on, my gosh. Okay, Ryan's on on the case. Yes, that's what I'm talking about. So come on, man. I know, man. We we got the air home. We don't need nothing else, man. That's that's plenty, but um okay. But Ryan, what is in your cup, sir? Sorry. Oh man, we are rocking the one, the only, the classic, the peach.

SPEAKER_02:

What are you gonna do with the peach? Yeah. Hold on. Hey six seven, man.

SPEAKER_04:

Six seven.

SPEAKER_01:

Six seven, y'all. That's because he canceled. Yes, just like that.

SPEAKER_04:

We've become irrelevant. It was laying right there for me to do. So I want to be down, I want to be down with the kids.

SPEAKER_01:

You have to do this when you say six seven. Do this six seven. Six seven. I'm very choppy on my camera. That's not cool. You don't dude.

SPEAKER_04:

I am too, so don't feel bad.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, it's because you keep saying six seven.

SPEAKER_00:

Right, do this, do this six seven. Come on now. That's the that's the number of kilobytes per second of my connection right now. Six seven anyway. Uh, but yeah, Pete's Brian, that's what you said you're rocking tonight.

SPEAKER_04:

Yes, which pizza rhyme. Just at least give us which pete.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, I forget. Let's see. It's the uh major dickinsons.

SPEAKER_04:

Oh, he went in his drawer too. Did y'all see that?

SPEAKER_01:

Right. Come on now. I got a drawer coffee.

SPEAKER_00:

Secret stash of who hash organized. Good stuff, man. How about you, John? What's in your cup tonight?

SPEAKER_01:

Hey, yippee! You know, um, this coffee has got me feeling this week, has gotten me feeling like I want to say fall, but it's I'm not I'm not gonna lie to you. I'm ready for Christmas. But honor the fall season because I love you, Mr. David. Um, I got an apple pie light roast from Letl. No way, add a little cinnamon, maple, cinnamon, something, something in there, and then you got yourself a six, seven cup of coffee. Oh, you can't get any more merging than that.

SPEAKER_04:

You know, John, you could add a um you add a dash of whipped cream to that, and you got something.

SPEAKER_01:

John's been kicked up. Oh, he's back. Okay. The funny thing is, I had a it was a maple cinnamon cold, uh, cold cream. What's it called? Cold brew. Not a cold brew, uh whipped cream. Cold cream? That's all right. Hold on. It's a whipped, it's a flavored whipped cream. That's what I'm doing. Oh, like a creamer. Cold foam. That's what it was. Cold foam. Oh, gotcha. Okay, cold foam. Um, absolutely delicious. Um, and I want to add that whatever y'all are drinking tonight or while you're listening to this episode, let us know. I want to see some uh I want to see some suggestions. I want to see some new coffees in my life because I need some variety, apparently.

SPEAKER_00:

Anyway, not bad, not bad. Apple pie is the most American thing you could have drank tonight, John. So it does taste like apple pie. I will say that. It's pretty good. We wholeheartedly support that, man. Here at Battle Bros and Brew. All right, David, what about you, sir?

SPEAKER_04:

Tonight I pulled out a I don't know if you could consider this a fall, but it's a um fall enough for me. I've got New England Coffees Butter Pecan.

SPEAKER_01:

Hey, yes.

SPEAKER_00:

I don't know about that tankle, that's kind of a little too fruity with notes of real fruitiness.

SPEAKER_04:

So, yeah, this is a really good coffee. It's the part of the reason why I'm drinking it is because this coffee is nostalgic for three of the four of us. Yes, because back when we used to spend literally all of our time in New Hampshire, this was the coffee we were able to get in the cafe that we went to all of the time. So yeah, it's it's an old love story that we used to have with our coffee and our little our trips up to New England, and our quaint New England town.

SPEAKER_00:

It's almost like a Hallmark channel theme.

SPEAKER_02:

Really, really.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, yes. I don't like Pixie Dust all the whole. Maybe that's what that that's what that sound was actually. You can claw all right what about beer, Philip. Well, tonight, believe it or not, I've gone a different way from coffee and I'm over into the realm of hot chocolate. Yeah, um, what we've got this evening. I've I've this is really cool. My wife uh picked this up. It's what they call bone broth protein from Paleo Valley. So um it's like a it's it's like a mix, like a powder. And so I I heated up some milk, well, almond milk, you know. I'm I'm doing that whole thing, and I threw it in here, and it tastes like a very delicious hot chocolate. It's actually very, very good, man. So um, shout out to Paleo Valley for making a product that doesn't taste like garbage. I appreciate that. So um, because you know, with a lot of these protein powders, I don't know if anybody's else has gotten into all that, but sometimes they're just it's like oh gosh, it's like sand, yeah, like drinking sand or chalk or drinking gasing six seven or or drinking six seven, whatever that whatever that's about to exit this uh live.

SPEAKER_04:

Sorry, uh the last bomb I'm gonna drop before we get into our I think six seven was the worst thing that could have happened to us today.

SPEAKER_01:

The last thing we need to hear about six seven, dude. I promise you that. But anyway, in Psalm 67, uh we'll be looking at no wind out of here.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, so uh but that is what's in our cup. As you can tell, we we're keeping it really loosey-goosey here, uh for this segment. But um, let's go ahead and talk about what's in the word, and I do want to apologize for the choppiness of my camera. So don't know what that's all about and don't have the inclination to fix it right now. But um if nothing else, we can we can just turn you can just listen to it on headphones, you won't know the difference. So, but we want to talk about humility because we've been talking about for the past few weeks about pride, and I think it was maybe for the first time last week we started introducing the antidote to pride, which is humility. And it's always good as we know that when we hear these types of terms, it's not enough just to go, oh yeah, pride and or oh yeah, being humble, and then going off of maybe definitions that you have just kind of accumulated over your life, and and but not really seeing what the actual biblical definition is, according to like the the famous Bible studies that we tools that we talk about, like the concordance, like Bible dictionaries, to really see and and let the Bible define those terms for us. And so we did take some time to look at like I think we looked at the Hebrew word for pride, we looked at the Hebrew word for humility or Greek word for humility, and really got a more of an understanding of what those things mean uh as the writers of the scriptures intended them to mean. And so for this episode, uh we we were thinking about like, okay, now that we've gotten into this realm of humility, what are some working definition type of things that we can come up with or that we can discover from the scripture to show us what humility is all about? What is this actually, you know, how do you operate in something like that? I mean, we we we know uh generally what being humble is all about, or so or so we believe. It's like, okay, being humble typically means you're being unassuming, you know, it means that you're um you're willing to take the second place instead of trying to be up front, you know, and those types of things. It's it always carries kind of a definition or a connotation of like, I don't mind being uh, if you want to put it this way, like behind the scenes instead of being the you know, the main character uh on the stage. And for those who have heard this term before, more more of like an internet term, I guess, uh main character syndrome. Have anybody ever heard that? It's like you know, like it when you have somebody you're deal with somebody who has main character syndrome, that means they're the kind of person that thinks that the whole world revolves around them and that they are here to be the center of attention all the time. That is, if if you want to put it, that's that's kind of a very practical understanding of what pride is, if you want to break it down like that. So, humility, if you if you want to keep it in kind of a contrast, that's that's gonna be the opposite of that main character syndrome, those characteristics. Humility will be somebody who's not always willing to be the person who's at in the spotlight, somebody who's not always willing to be the person who's um you know, have has to have the attention all the time or be the life of the party all the time. Uh a humble person or a person of humility is that person that's more unassuming, can kind of stay in the background without having a problem with it, doesn't mind celebrating the successes of other people versus always having to talk about themselves. You know, a humble person is somebody who's, you know, they're they're they're not self-centered, they're not focused on self all the time and trying to promote self all the time. So that's kind of I I know I'm I'm kind of going off the top right now, but it's the if we want to talk about some practical foundational definitions of pride versus humility, we can start there just with that core idea of not being self-centered and not being self-focused all the time. So with that in mind, let's look at a scripture that kind of gives a decent um uh kind of a position that we should be in. Oh yeah. Okay, we're at the Matthew 23 thing. Um, down, let's see. This is in Matthew 23, this is when Jesus was rebuking the Pharisees for their very obvious pride, their very obvious lack of humility. And he talks about how they always have to be the center of attention. Um, and actually it says in verse 5 in Matthew 23, it says, But all their works they do for to be seen of men. He says they broaden their they make broad their phylacteries, which uh I think the phylactery was like a a decoration on their sleeve or something like that. I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, it's something like that. Um enlarge the borders of their garments. I'm probably totally wrong about that phylactery thing.

SPEAKER_04:

So forgive me. Well, I think if I recall the phylactery correct, it was a little decorative ends of the little things that they they wore around their neck.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, gotcha. Gotcha.

SPEAKER_04:

Went down almost to the ground, some of them different places.

unknown:

Okay.

SPEAKER_04:

But you're in you're in the same, you're in the right territory.

SPEAKER_00:

Gotcha. And I and if I'm not mistaken, I think it was a thing where they would put scriptures on it or something like that. It had like uh different Hebrew there we go. Wearing slips of scripture. I can't read the rest of that because of uh of uh our own heads, but but I think it's there we go. Yeah, a guard case for wearing slips of scripture texts. Uh so it was some kind of I'll tell you what, Ron, if you could go down to the helps word studies section there. It says, Oh, small leather cases containing four key passages of scripture strapped to the inside of the left arm, hmm, between the shoulder and the elbow. So it's almost like where you take your blood pressure. That's where they were putting these little scripture boxes or whatever they are. Um, and it says to rest over the heart during prayer. Wow. They're also strapped on the wrist and forehead to signify how the word of God should regulate all behavior and thoughts. Now, here's what's interesting about these guys. If you didn't know a thing about how they conducted themselves, you would look at something like that and go, man, these people are devoted. Man, they're dedicated. You know, they've got scripture on their arm, you know what I mean? It's like they're wearing it literally like a badge. And it seems honorable just from at face value. But when you like go through the different gospels and you see all the different times Jesus was rebuking these guys, these Pharisees, for the type of um holier than thou, uppity up, pretentious attitude and mindset and condescending mindset that they had, you realize that even though what they did appeared to be ultra-spiritual, ultra-noble and religious, it was actually from a motive that wasn't correct. Their motive was to be seen by people, to be complimented by people, to be, you know, uh known as a person who is very spiritual and noble and all those types of things. And so they had at the root of all these decorations they wore to show how how into God's word they were, um, they they were doing it from a motive of pride. It was, look at me, look at me, I'm awesome because I know the scriptures so much that I wear them around every day. Um, this type of thing, God's not a fan of it. He's never been a fan of it. And that's why that whole parable of the Pharisee and the publican, that's what it's all about. It's about the Pharisee coming in, presenting himself, saying, God, I'm just so glad that I'm not like these other people. You know, the first thing he did was start bragging about um how spiritual he was versus how unspiritual everybody else was. And then then Jesus swings the parable over to the publican, and the publican's like, it said he wouldn't even lift his eyes to heaven. He just kept his head low and was like beaten on his chest and saying, Father, please be merciful to me. I am a sinner. And he said, This guy left justified rather than the Pharisee, because everyone who exalts himself will be abased. And that word abase means to be brought low. But everyone who abases himself will be exalted. Now I've said a big mouthful. Um, David, do you have any any thoughts on on what we've covered so far? Oh, I think you're on mute, David.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, sorry about that. Um, first of all, I was wrong too on the phylacteries.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_04:

And so um I do want to show you what a phylactery is, uh, because it's actually it's actually very interesting. Um, so if I can just there we go. Let's see, let's share the screen. And then um we're gonna share a window, this window, and share, and I wonder if you guys can see that.

SPEAKER_00:

I see Matthew 23, but I don't see the how's that image? Oh, there we go.

SPEAKER_04:

It's phylacteries and straps, it's almost like a Fitbit that they're an old testament Fitbit.

SPEAKER_00:

Gotcha.

SPEAKER_04:

Okay, complete with box on head. So um yeah, there's those are phylacteries. It's I always like to if you can get an image of what something is, it's helpful. So sorry about that for for being wrong. Uh I'm accustomed to that. Um, you know, I wanted to just say the other thing that this reminds me of, and I know I've said it for the last three weeks, but I think it's just such a a dynamic scripture, and the whole context of it is the whole context of humility comes from the place of rather than inviting and placing yourself somewhere to be invited and to be placed.

SPEAKER_00:

There you go.

SPEAKER_04:

There you go. Humility says that when I go to someone's house or I'm invited to a party, um the best place for me to sit is somewhere unassuming and allow the host of the party to say, no, no, I have a special seat for you. Or you might find that your name is already on a seat, a table, or a chair. And that was one of the one of the ways that humility was demonstrated back in the Bible days. You didn't just show up and assume the front table, you were invited, and by being invited, you were honored, and so that it's the same concept, and I just want to, you know, also say that humility, um I think it is the missing element of our Christianity in so many ways. Because I don't first of all, I I'm starting to think, and Philip, you we went to church together for a long time. Do you remember a sermon on humility?

SPEAKER_00:

If it did happen, it was few and far between.

SPEAKER_04:

Um it was mentioned in connection with something else. Um, but it wasn't the it wasn't the primary the primary piece of the puzzle. And you know, from a place of humility comes so much good stuff, and there's so much kindness. You you even see it in the fruit of the spirit, you know, just out of all of these things, you can see how humility gives birth to good in other people's lives and in your own life, and just remember um the gospel that oh boy, I'm about to get in trouble. I'd you know, I hate these conversations about the Western gospel versus the eastern gospel, um but I do recognize there is some truth in the conversation, yeah, and what I mean by that is that because we live where we live, when we see certain things about the scripture, we see them from the perspective that we understand.

SPEAKER_00:

Right.

SPEAKER_04:

And so it's easy for us to apply a more Western perspective to something scripturally that actually wasn't there. When we say the Bible is a book of the East, we really mean that the Bible is a book of Africa, Asia, and those areas there. And there's so many um traditions and things that when they read the Bible, they see them from their perspective, and their perspective is a little more right than ours. It's our job to be students and to learn those perspectives and to see it that way too, to best understand the scripture. With that being said, um, I actually just forgot where I was going with that because I got distracted. But I think I think my whole point was is that though we can though we see the Bible sometimes from different perspectives, the reality is is that humility isn't for us, it's for others. But because we operate in humility, God blesses us and benefits us. Yeah, and he says, because you functioned this way, because you governed and carried yourself this way, I'm now gonna do what I do when people do what you do. And what he does is he blesses and he restores. And we saw that in the different stories um that we saw. You know, Philip, can I just take us completely off track right now?

SPEAKER_00:

Go for it.

SPEAKER_04:

Um, I'd like for us to actually look at a story. Um and if if you don't want to now, we can you can say let's hold it. Um but I think if there was ever an example of what humility is, it was when Jesus washed the disciples' feet.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Yep.

SPEAKER_04:

And so could we look at John chapter 13 and just kind of follow our pattern of storytelling through the Bible? And let's just read this story, maybe and let it let it let it speak.

SPEAKER_00:

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_04:

All right. It says now before the feast, the Pass of the Passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come, that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own, which were in the world, he loved them unto the end. And supper being ended, the devil having now put into the heart of Judas Iscariot, Simon's son, to betray him, Jesus knowing that the Father had given him all given all these things into his hands, and that he was come from God and went to God, he rises from supper and laid aside his garments and took a towel and girded himself. It's very interesting to understand something right off the rip here. What these three scriptures tell us is a couple of things that Jesus understood. He knew his hour was coming. And he understood and knew his place. Verse 3 says, knowing that the Father had given all things into his hands, and that he was come from God and went to God from there, he rose from the supper and laid aside his garments and took a towel and girded himself. So Jesus was very aware of what was going on around him.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

I don't know about you, but if I was as aware as Jesus was of what was going on around me, I would have probably freaked out a bit.

SPEAKER_00:

And that's what gets me about this, man. It's like I can see how the Holy Spirit was leading John to have this kind of a build-up before he describes what Jesus actually did with the washing of the feet, because it's it's basically saying Jesus was well aware that everything that God has was going to be put into his hands. You know, it's like there was nothing, there was no amount of authority or power or prominence or eminence or whatever else you want to call it that he would not have access to and not be a part of. And yet, with all that, uh in light of all that, here's what Jesus chose to do. He was he was saying, like, imagine if you knew this type of thing was at your disposal, you know, how would you act? Now, here's how Jesus acted. That is that's powerful, man. That's very powerful, right?

SPEAKER_04:

Right, and knowing he was about to die, and he was about to die.

SPEAKER_00:

There's the other part of it, too. It's like, man, you know, he he knew the plan was being executed to perfection, basically. And here's what he chose to do right in the midst of it.

SPEAKER_04:

Right, that's so good, Philip. Praise God, Jesus the seed getting rid. In the process of being planted, knowing that in order for there to be a harvest, that he had to die so that it would come. Wow. That's such a significant thing.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

So we look at verse 5. It says, after that, he pours water into a basin and began to wash the disciples' feet and to wipe them with the towel wherewith he was girded. Now, Philip, you fix this for me if I'm wrong. Um, but Jesus was naked.

SPEAKER_00:

I've wondered about that because I don't know. It makes it sound like it. I don't know. I don't because it said he laid aside his garments in verse four. And I'm like, how many of them garments did he lay aside? I don't know, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04:

And it says he took a towel and girded himself. So he wrapped the it wrapped, he wrapped the towel around himself, but outside of that, Jesus was stripped down to virtually nothing. Wow. Talk about being completely. I mean, just think, you're you're the Lord of the universe, and you you're that laid down for what you're about to do. Wow. Wow. It says verse 6, then cometh he to Simon, Peter. And Peter said unto him, Lord, do you wash my feet? Jesus answered and said unto him, What I do you know not now, but you shall know hereafter. But Peter said unto him, You shall never wash my feet. And Jesus answered him, If I wash thee not, thou hast no part with me. Simon Peter said unto him, Lord, not my feet only, but also my hands, my head, and my head.

SPEAKER_00:

He changed the tune real quick when he found that idea.

SPEAKER_04:

Yes, he did. And Jesus said to him, He that is washed needeth not save to wash his feet, but is clean every whit. And you are clean, but not all, for he knew who should betray him. Therefore said he, You are not all clean.

SPEAKER_00:

He knew who Judas was gonna, he knew what Judas was about to do, for sure. And again, all according to plan. Now that's the part that Judas didn't know. You know, right.

SPEAKER_04:

That's so good, Phil. That's so good that Judas didn't know it was all according to plan, but Jesus did.

SPEAKER_00:

And I love that scripture in First Corinthians 2 when it said, uh, none of the princes of this world knew uh what God's plan was. For had they known it, they would never have crucified the Lord of glory. You know, it's like they if they only knew what God did with 5D chess he was working with, they they would have never done what they did. But just like John and I were talking about a little bit before the episode started, you know, pride makes you stupid. And so these people they were they were operating on a lower level of understanding, and Jesus was fully aware of that for sure.

SPEAKER_04:

Wow. Let's pick up a verse, let's pick up a verse 12. It says, So after he had washed their feet and had taken his garments and was set down again, he said unto them, Know ye what I have done to you? You call me master and lord, and you say well. In other words, that's true, for so I am. If I then, your Lord and Master, have washed your feet, you also ought to wash one another's feet. For I have given you an example that you should do as I have done to you. Verily, verily I say unto you, the servant is not greater than his Lord, neither is he that neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him. If you know these things, happy are you if you do them.

SPEAKER_00:

Now, David, can I can I stop for a quick second here?

SPEAKER_04:

You can stop for five.

SPEAKER_00:

He literally, Jesus literally just gave everyone the key to happiness.

SPEAKER_04:

Come on, Philip.

SPEAKER_00:

It's right there. Verse 17. He says, if you know these things, happy are you if you do them. He's showing you that happiness is directly tied to how well you can serve other people. Bottom line. How unselfish can you be? How selfless you can be. Your happiness is tied directly to that. Now, isn't that and I know David, we we've talked a lot about this stuff over the years. Isn't that the exact opposite of what the world teaches us and tries to influence us to do?

SPEAKER_04:

You know, you're so right, Philip. You're so right.

SPEAKER_00:

Praise God. It's because in if you ask the world, what's the key to happiness? Oh, well, you gotta make X amount of money, you gotta obtain these things, and it's always based on accumulating or gathering or doing something for self. Right.

SPEAKER_04:

You know, it's all self-screen more and more for self, more and more for self.

SPEAKER_00:

That's right. But then Jesus demonstrates true humility and true uh biblical servanthood, and he does that and tells you this is what unlocks the key to actual happiness, the thing everybody's claiming to be searching for. He showed us how to get it right there in John 13.

SPEAKER_04:

That's a great film. That's so good. And and you know, not only if I could just point out one other thing there, and it's that Jesus is like the servant isn't greater than his master. So whatever you see the master do, you as a servant ought to do also. And so I think it's significant that of the the final thing that Jesus does, one of the final things he does before he makes this transition from heaven, from earth to heaven, and rightfully taking his place as he stops everything and starts cleaning people's feet, and just the the the requirement of us to be servants to one another. Why is it that we're all always fighting for the front? Why are we all always fighting for you know, we demand respect from people? And look, I I get it, respect, but you know, it's just like we have such we have such um just unrespectable expectations of people, yeah, about ourselves and about things, and that if we just kept ourselves in this place of humility where it's like, look, I'm here to serve you guys, I'm here to help and do whatever, and that's all I hope to get out of this. Yeah, imagine how much more of a blessed life you'll live.

SPEAKER_00:

I know, man. I know. If you come in with no agenda other than just to be a blessing, you know, if you're able to do that, that that's gonna set you up for a much happier experience with life versus coming into a situation or into a relationship, whatever else with what can I get. You know, again, this is just the the default setting for the the world without God is you know, I enter into relationships only thinking about what I can get. I enter into business partnerships thinking about what I can obtain for myself. It's always this idea of still being all about me. And God's prescription is completely the opposite. His prescription for happiness and for you know actual success is the exact opposite. It is how much can I give? What can I do to help and bless other people? That is truly what will bring greatness into your life. And I mean, it it's a it's a complete mindset shift, what is what it boils down to. It's a complete shift of your mindset. And I don't know about you, David, but like I know just from personal experience, even just in marriage by by itself, just marriage, the more selfish I act, the more miserable I am. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04:

Like you haven't said a word there, dude.

SPEAKER_00:

I I I've only can I can only say it because I've lived it quite a few times. It's like when I have been selfish, and I know I've been selfish, even if, like, let's say that my wife and I get into a little argument or whatever it is, and I walk away, you know, it's like I got the better of her on that one. As soon as I get something like that uh in my mind, the immediate thing that I feel after that is, oh man, you suck. It's like, why did you know what did you really gain out of this? Out of you being selfish, you know, for whatever reason. And the more you the more selfish you act, and especially in marriage, the more miserable you become. But the more selfless and the more of a servant you become, the happier you end up being.

SPEAKER_04:

Right. But then you can watch that out, you can watch that across so many areas of your life, you know. And then, you know, the other thing that we do is remember, Jesus did this as the leader of it all.

SPEAKER_00:

Yep.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, he wasn't he wasn't he's the general of God's army, you know what I mean? You know, when things when this thing wraps up in the end, he's the one that's coming back on the on the horse with the with the double-edged sword in his mouth and all that, and you're going to see him as he really is.

SPEAKER_00:

That's right.

SPEAKER_04:

But you're talking about this high, exalted one, this holy, righteous, just God.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

Come so low as to clean your feet. And it's not like it's not like I think that and you know, maybe you speak to it a little bit, Philip, but it's even in our today lives, just because Jesus hasn't specifically washed your feet in person doesn't mean he doesn't wash your feet. And that you haven't that you haven't had an interaction with him because I believe that first point part of it is what the point of salvation, and when we allow ourselves to be baptized, that's that washing ceremony, yeah, yeah. That that cleans and keeps everyone, you know, in this place where you know you and Jesus have a moment in that pool or wherever you get baptized, and you two become one. And by the way, feet are washed, bodies are touched, and good things happen from that moment. And we've just got to give I mean, it's just a wonderful, wonderful thought to think about how God, how good God is, that He's still washing feet and still saying, This is the example, follow me.

SPEAKER_00:

Absolutely, and you you brought a scripture to my mind, David, um, in Hebrews 7. Uh, Ron, if you could pull that one up. But in Hebrews 7, I'd love this scripture because it just shows like the heart of Jesus. Because, you know, we we kind of sometimes you can kind of forget that there is a present-day ministry of Jesus. You know, um, we know what he did on the cross, obviously. We know that he died and bled for us and rose from the dead, but there's also a present-day ministry of Jesus because he is now sitting at the right hand of the Father. And it's what it says here in 25, maybe, if we go down there. Um, let's see here. Yep. Yeah. In verse 24 and 25, it says, But this man, talking about Jesus, because he continues forever, has an unchangeable priesthood. He's our he's our high priest now. Um in the whole book of Hebrews is all about that, or at least a big chunk of it is about how Jesus is the eternal high priest. We don't have to have a high priest that you know comes through the line of Aaron that you know they they die after so many years and another one replaces them. Nope. Jesus is our unchangeable high priest, he's the unchanged has an unchangeable priesthood. In verse 25, it says, wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him. And I love this last part, seeing that he ever lives to make intercession for them. That's just so awesome. It's like he's living forever to intercede on our behalf before the Father. Still getting low, still getting low, and still being in a servant role, if you want to call it that. He still serves us. I that's mind-blowing to me. And even in first John 2, when it says, um, if anybody sins, we have an advocate with the Father.

SPEAKER_04:

Right.

SPEAKER_00:

Jesus is the advocate for all of us who definitely can't get it right on a daily basis. You know what I mean? We need we need his help, man. We need his help, but he he serves constantly, even down to the fact that God makes the sun shine on this planet every day. That is God's servant heart towards mankind. Everything he did to set the conditions so that we could have life on this planet. That is God's servant heart, if you think about it. It's so amazing, dude. It's just and and it just makes you think, man, that's probably how he wants us to be to behave.

SPEAKER_04:

You know, we're we're called to match that energy.

SPEAKER_00:

Praise God. Praise God. That energy, you know.

SPEAKER_04:

Um Philip, I think we maybe put a bookmark right there.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_04:

This is this was a good little road to chase, and I and I hope that I hope that um, you know, one of the things that I've desired to do in this series is, and we both do this all the time, but you know, when the Bible speaks for itself, it really is a significant thing that has happened. Yeah, and we've literally shown you biblical story after biblical story after biblical story that lays all of these pieces out. Um, don't let them just be good stories. Don't be like, wow, that was wild that that happened. You know, you gotta come to this point where you're like, not only is it wild that that happened, but now what do I do in light of what I now know about what's happened? How do I live? How do I govern myself? And look, this turning is not necessarily an easy thing to do, especially when we've lived such lives. Look, when we have lived part of any portion of our lives apart from God, living in sin, we have had us as number one on our minds. That's right, and he is asking us to make not only him number one, but to work to make others the main character.

SPEAKER_00:

That's good, David.

SPEAKER_04:

And it takes some time to make the transition, but you have to start somewhere. And now is a good time to start and to say, you know, maybe it's just you know what, tomorrow I'm gonna do a little something for somebody that makes them the main character. You know, whether I bring them some cookies, you know, for lunch, or whether, you know, I slow down and take a little more time with them just so they know I'm present. Whatever it may be, slow down and take that time for that someone so that they know right now you're the main character. Because inevitably, what happens well, not oh not always, but what happens a lot of times is that when people feel that way and you feel their their cup, they desire to feel your cup, yeah. And now you kind of see how the body is supposed to work. Uh, Romans, I believe it's Romans 12, says every joint supply so that nobody has a need, and we're all filling each other's cups, and one of the ways that we do that is emotionally. And let me tell you one other thing, Philip. We have a mental health crisis in this country, I know for sure. We have a mental health crisis in this world, and part of it is everybody's trying to be main character, and nobody is wanting to serve like Jesus did.

SPEAKER_00:

Come on, dude.

SPEAKER_04:

Yes, we did. We need to, if we would just start serving, we would find that we heal and we are helping to be a part of somebody else's healing.

SPEAKER_00:

That's right. That's right, man. Philip, what are your final thoughts? Well, just to quickly piggyback off what you just said, I think that um there is a lot of talk now about self-care, you know, and those types of things. And while definitely neglecting yourself is not a great idea, um I think it's a fallacy to think that you've got to get everything in your life right first before you can focus on helping anybody else. I I'm not an advocate of that because I've found many times the opposite to be true. The the less I focus on myself and just start trying to be a blessing to other people, all of a sudden the things in my life start to smooth out. You know, but when I get selfish and it's all about me and self-care and all this stuff like that, and it's just all internal and self-focused, it seems to make the world very small. And it's like what Proverbs, I think it's Proverbs 29, maybe. It says, the person who's only concerned with their own interests breaks out against all sound wisdom. You know, uh, I forgot what verse, I think it's the first verse in one of them proverbs. But point being, it's like you you there there comes a place where you hit this tipping point and it's no longer self-care, it's just straight up self-centeredness and selfishness. So try to find that balance for sure.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, we I'll tell you, Philip, in agreement with what you just said. Our marriage got better when we started serving other marriages. Wow. When we started counseling people and helping people. I I honestly believe that we deflected some trouble just simply because we already saw it coming through other people, and knew we didn't want to have anything to do with that. And by making ourselves available to each other, I think it helped us to be more tender-hearted towards one another, and I think that's been one of the keys that's caused us to survive now over 30 years in marriage.

SPEAKER_00:

That is awesome. That is awesome.

SPEAKER_04:

Who would have ever thought? And um when times are lean, those are some of the things that keep us. Uh, even in the lean times, I will tell you, my wife is this person, she's always serving, and um I'm uh she's helped me a lot by being able to do that, and um so be that person in somebody's life. You never know how much it's appreciated, uh much more than you ever would have known that was an appreciate it was appreciated, and not just appreciated, but needed. Needed. We are so glad that you guys have joined us tonight. Um, we're we're grateful for you. We're thankful for you being a part of this conversation. Um, we hope that you will get something out of this and do something with it. Don't just let it be something you've heard, but let it be something you do. Next week, I think we're gonna come back and talk about applying humility in our lives and how to practically, you know, what what is it to practically apply humility in our lives? Don't forget that you can connect with us on social media. Uh, we're out there on TikTok. Um, I don't know why I said it like that. Uh Instagram, uh, Facebook, uh, all these great things. So go out there and connect with us and let us know that you've been listening to the podcast. You can also drop us a note in the podcast description for any one of the platforms that you're enjoying watching us on or looking at us on, like YouTube, Rumble, Spotify, um, Apple Podcast, and others. So just use the comment section, drop us a note, let us know what you think. We'd love to hear from you. And finally, if you'd like to send us an email. You can email us at gotbrew at biblebros.net. Again, that's gotbrew at biblebros.net. We'd love to hear if there's something you want us to cover specifically, or if there's some help you need, something we can pray for you about. That's what we're here for. And finally, you'll note down here in the comment section or in the description of the podcast, there should be a link to the Bible study guide. We release a Bible study guide every week to support the podcast. So if you just go in and you sign up for the Bible study guide, you'll get that every Monday morning. And uh, it'll help you all week long as you think through and look through some of the things we've talked about on the podcast. That that that yawn almost got me. But I didn't. I fought it back in Gaza.

SPEAKER_00:

There you go. Yes.

SPEAKER_04:

I'm David. This is my good friend Philip.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_04:

These are our cups of coffee, and all of us are out. See you next time.