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How to Keep From Falling (Part 10) | Adding Brotherly Kindness and Love to Your Faith
As we wrap up our exploration of the seven virtues listed in 2 Peter 1:5-7, this episode focuses on the final two items on that list: Brotherly kindness and love. So is there any difference between the two, and if so, what is it? To help answer these questions, David & Phil dig into a handful of key scriptural cross-references that explain the key distinctions between these two spiritual qualities. So grab your Bible and your favorite cup of coffee, and get ready to dig into the Word with us!
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On this episode of Bible Bros and Brew. We're going to continue our journey through the book of 2 Peter, chapter 1, in that list of virtues there where he talks about what you need to be adding to your faith, and this time around we're going to focus on two of those elements, which are brugly, love and then love. Is there a difference? We're going to find out on this episode of Bible Bros and Brew. My name is Philip and with me I have Ryan up above me, john, this way, david Diagonal, I did that right. I can't believe I did it all right. Man, dude, that's what happens when you rehearse and come on time. But anyway, we're glad you joined us here. We have been in the middle of a series about what we call the seven virtues or seven character traits. Basically we're titling the series how to Keep from Falling. And basically we're titling the series how to Keep from Falling. But in the midst of us talking about that, we've been going through 2 Peter, chapter 1, where it does talk about those seven things that believers need to be adding to their faith, and that would include virtue and knowledge and temperance and self-control and all those good things we've been kind of covering in the past episodes, but now we're here in this episode talking about two elements that it mentions in the King James. They call it brotherly kindness and charity, which we're going to study more about what both of those mean and the differences between the two. So it's going to be a good one, guys.
Phillip Rich:We've been really, really trying to just milk this thing, if you want to call it that I don't even know if that's a great word to use but we've been trying to do our best to really just take our time and digest what we're hearing and seeing from the word about this, because if Peter tells us, and through the Holy Spirit, says, that if you add these items to your faith, you'll never fall, then I'm thinking to myself well, I want that formula for never falling because I don't want to have to deal with that in my life. We have enough crashing out happening all over the place right now. So, with that being said, before we jump into the deep end, we're going to first do our famous question here on Bible Bros and Brew, and that is what is in the cup. So, david, let's start with you, sir. What do you have in your cup tonight?
David McIntyre:First of all, I'd like to thank you for starting with me, because it just helps me to feel important.
Phillip Rich:Absolutely.
David McIntyre:That being said, because if you had started with Ryan, then I was already feeling bad about my relationship with Ryan, with Ryan, and I was already feeling bad about my relationship with Ryan. He's on the come up right now and you know I just wanted to be first today. I told you guys, over the last couple of weeks I'm just being silly, you know I've been on a K cup tear and I just been tearing these k-cups up. Uh, even in my personal time I've been drinking k-cups over ground coffee and whatnot and I told y'all it had to stop and tonight it has stopped oh my, I pulled back out an old friend, jim's Organic Double Chocolate.
David McIntyre:It's probably not going to.
Jon Dzyuba:Yeah.
David McIntyre:I don't want it to either, because Don't tempt the fate, Matt. I know my camera has been acting up, but it's Jim's. Organic Coffee, double Chocolate, and I found it actually at a place where I found actually a couple of good coffees and that's at Amazon. So my pumpkin pie came from Amazon, this Jim's organic and a couple of others, so highly recommended coffee. The only thing that's making me a little less conversational today is this cup is too tall and weird. That's a dope question. It's interfering with my conversationalism.
Jon Dzyuba:Oh no, you can't have it happen.
David McIntyre:This one might be giving away to somebody, because to me it's not.
Ryan Holdeman:It's like a German.
David McIntyre:It's like a Stein.
Jon Dzyuba:It's not really a mug, yeah me it's not.
David McIntyre:It's like a stein. Yeah, it's not really a mug, yeah, so I'm not feeling conversational with this is that a fantastic four on there?
Ryan Holdeman:what's happening?
David McIntyre:well, and that's the other thing. It's confusing. It's got some fantastic four on it. It's got Electra on it, of all people whoever asked for her to be, on a cup, right? Right? Nobody asked for Electra to ever be on the cup, right? She's just that kind of character. And then Wolverine is just a generic Marvel cup, with no thought to you know.
David McIntyre:Then there's Daredevil over here, right, daredevil's one of my favorite characters, marvel Cup with no thought to you know, didn't? There's Daredevil over here, right? Daredevil's one of my favorite characters, but I never asked for him to be on this cup and it doesn't make sense. So I've got to sort this out in my head so I can be a conversationalist.
Jon Dzyuba:Well, no, the coffee might not have made you conversational, or no, the mug. It sounds like the mug is making you conversational.
David McIntyre:No, the coffee typically makes me conversational, but the cup is confusing the conversationalist and I know man. The coffee is saying yes, but this cup it's like it's so tall it's interfering with the conversation.
Phillip Rich:Maybe we need to standardize the maximum allowable cup height on Bible Bros and Brew here.
Ryan Holdeman:Or maybe a good solution is a straw. Oh, we don't do. Sissy sticks out here.
Jon Dzyuba:Oh, no, we do, I'm sorry, uncle Phil, we do. Sissy sticks out here. No, we do, I'm sorry.
David McIntyre:Uncle Phil, we do. Sissy sticks out here. He's using one tonight, so you might not want to take away his dick.
Jon Dzyuba:I was just joking. If you feel the need to use a strong, I will not discriminate.
David McIntyre:He's one of those anti-straw types.
Phillip Rich:It is.
Jon Dzyuba:Straws are for some people.
David McIntyre:Right, and I also feel now like the cavernous of the cup is interfering with the taste of the coffee.
Phillip Rich:See, it's traveling too far to get to your mouth, and that's the problem. If you can hear an echo as you sip, yeah, that's, that's too big of a bug, so I'll sort it out while you guys tell us what you've been drinking.
Ryan Holdeman:Yes, ryan how about you, sir? Um, I would just like to point out, okay, well, never mind, I was gonna to say the dealership has dropped off since we've talked about it welcome back.
Ryan Holdeman:Welcome back everyone yeah, we're glad that you're here. I got my ice coffee that we made with my hyper chiller. You don't know about that? Look, a couple of weeks ago. Definitely get the hyper chiller. If you like ice coffee on a budget, come on now. But it tastes good and we brewed the, the Peets, of course. I mean absolutely, absolutely Good stuff, and I just got your classic little clear glass so you can see what you're drinking, you know exactly when it's going to arrive to your mouth versus the cavernous experience of David's cup.
Ryan Holdeman:That's right on time, that's right there. So perfect there, so good stuff perfect.
Phillip Rich:Yeah, well, how about you, john? What about your uh, your setup tonight?
Jon Dzyuba:I don't know. I feel like I'm just piling on with bad, bad coffee decisions today. So so today I'm adding on to my faith or I thought I would be adding on to my faith some chocolate, coconut coffee, it looked pretty cool. But then I remembered I don't like coconut, so I introduced a lot of creamer into this coffee, and so now I've drank it in my normal sized mug, and now I'm drinking water for the rest of the conversation it's not terrible, I just it's me.
Jon Dzyuba:Chocolate coconut is not bad. It's just me. I'm the problem.
David McIntyre:I don't like coconut yeah, knowing is half the battle. Yeah, what is on your cup?
Ryan Holdeman:it looks like a tetris version of a like a back massager. Oh, that's a back, sorry.
Jon Dzyuba:Have you seen Tron? Oh yeah. This is based off of Tron it says Greetings Programs.
Ryan Holdeman:I'm excited for the new one, the new Tron.
Jon Dzyuba:You don't even get me started, okay.
Phillip Rich:Dude.
Jon Dzyuba:Watch out. What about you, Uncle Phil?
Phillip Rich:You know, I know I've been I've got what's known now as the sissy stick in my coffee, but I wanted to point this out. This is actually a glass straw. So I wonder if I get a little bit more manly points for the glass straw.
Ryan Holdeman:And like when you get mad, you just bite it and you eat the glass exactly.
Phillip Rich:Just crunch it in your mouth. It's fantastic, man, so that's great. But um, but it's the stoke. Uh, cold brew.
Ryan Holdeman:I love this stuff, man that's the rich man's cold brew.
Phillip Rich:Oh, is that right the sophisticated yes, that's right. So, but it's the unsweet black, as we are often known to drink. I did find out recently that Stoke has what did you call? Me.
Jon Dzyuba:Oh my goodness man.
David McIntyre:Sorry, everybody Sorry.
Phillip Rich:It is off the chain out here in Bible Bros and Brew man, but I did find out Stoke has a decaf cold brew, which is really cool.
David McIntyre:They've got like four or five bottles on the shelves in the stores, yeah.
Phillip Rich:Yeah, I got to expand a little more, man, because I just don't like pre-sweetened cold brew kind of stuff, so I'm kind of staying away from that. Anyway, oh, I see we have some frothing action happening right here.
Jon Dzyuba:Live on the Blue Bros.
David McIntyre:Sorry, I had to do something because it wasn't hitting right.
Phillip Rich:Well, speaking of hitting right, I want you guys to hit that subscribe button right.
David McIntyre:Come on now.
Jon Dzyuba:Nice.
David McIntyre:You better make it work.
Phillip Rich:I mean, my segue game has to come up, man, so I'm working on it.
Jon Dzyuba:That's right, it was smooth too, because you know you want to come back and watch the next episode. Come on, exactly, exactly.
Phillip Rich:Turn the noties on. Man, the little bell, click that bad boy, I think that's what they call them hey, come on now. That's what I'm talking about. I know that.
David McIntyre:Can I also just say one other thing, please? We are literally weeks away from pumpkin spice season.
Jon Dzyuba:David, don't, but you're missing the moment now and you're trying to do it too quick. What's going on now? What is there that's going on right now?
Phillip Rich:Let's let summer play out first, Right? I feel you though, dude, because pumpkin spice is another level.
Ryan Holdeman:I think we should put a countdown though. That way it's like you're excited about it. You know it's going, but you're not going to do it too quick, right.
David McIntyre:But Ryan. The question is do we have to wait all the way to September or is it like Tuesday, august the 27th?
Ryan Holdeman:Come on now If you're in Atlanta, it's still too hot. It's still going to be like 90, some odd degrees out.
David McIntyre:So we got to wait until September, is what you're saying.
Jon Dzyuba:Yeah, September 15th.
David McIntyre:Second.
Jon Dzyuba:Well actually. Starbucks says it's 20 days away. Oh my goodness.
Ryan Holdeman:According to Starbucks, yeah, but they're funding baby abortions. We're going to listen to Starbucks.
Phillip Rich:Oh whoa, we jumped straight into the deep end.
David McIntyre:You better get into this word fast or it's about to be over.
Jon Dzyuba:Too quickly. Pumpkin spice is safe to drink, I promise Okay.
Phillip Rich:Like the rule of no wearing white after Labor Day or something like that.
Ryan Holdeman:Same thing.
David McIntyre:It's like you can see it, even if everybody looks up. In the top right corner of your screen there's a Bible Bros and Brew cup. Yeah, it's on the other side of you, ryan, on your other side.
Phillip Rich:Yeah, your left hand.
David McIntyre:There you go. You're holding the cup. Right now you can tell that cup holds pumpkin spice.
Ryan Holdeman:It does and that's fair and we are so glad that it's there and it's doing it.
Jon Dzyuba:But can you look back up at that cup Just for one more second, just like the way you just did, like look at it the way you just did, yeah.
David McIntyre:That needs to be the cover for this week.
Phillip Rich:It really does.
David McIntyre:I love the Bible Bros and Brew Cup. That's it, thank you. That's the thumbnail for the week.
Jon Dzyuba:ryan, you did it come on now, thank you oh my goodness, before we even started on the tracks, that's I know yes oh, my goodness, okay, so let's get, let's get into the word.
Phillip Rich:We um again. If you haven't yet gone back through the older not older, but the previous videos that we've done the past probably nine weeks I think it's been we've been on this journey of going through second Peter, and the reason why we even started it was because we were talking about just the different things that have happened in the body of Christ recently. And it seems like for the past several months there's been all kinds of controversies breaking out, scandals happening, prominent Christian figures being caught in some of the most egregious sins and stuff and things going on behind the scenes. It's just like goodness man, what is happening. And so it does seem like there's a lot of people doing what we would call falling away in Christian parlance, and so you don't want that to happen. Ok, and I've always said this, you know, I mean I'm sure I've mentioned it somewhere before in previous episodes but like when somebody first gets born again, they come to Jesus, they're on fire for the Lord. I'm sure the last thing on their mind is you know what, a few years from now, I'm going to totally ruin my life. You know, I don't think anybody's thinking that you know.
Phillip Rich:So a lot of times falling away or falling into sin, falling from grace, however you want to phrase it it's not something that happens all of a sudden in this one fell swoop. A lot of times it's things that happen gradually over time. It's almost like the way a river can erode some rock and kind of cut its way through some rock. It's something that happens gradually and sometimes it's almost undetectable. And that is a major issue because we as believers, as first Peter five tells us, we need to be sober, we need to be vigilant because, as it says there in verse, I think six or seven, it says you know your adversary.
Phillip Rich:The devil is roaming about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour and believe you, me, I know David can, we can get into this if you want to, but it's like we've seen him devouring people left and right in today's modern church. I mean, it just seems like there's been a lot of things, with preachers getting into all kinds of scandals and trouble and people walking away from the faith, maybe Christian musicians who they used to be on fire for God and make worship songs, and now they're I'm not even sure God's real anymore, man, you know and they're doing the whole deconstruction thing and all that. So we want to, we want to give you guys what we believe to be like really strong and effective equipment from the scripture to help you prevent those little foxes that spoil the vine, as it talks about in Ecclesiastes.
David McIntyre:Philip, I was just going to add to what you're saying. I'm one of those believers who believes that we are in the last days. We're moving in the end of time, right. And what's interesting is, it seems like, as we continue to come to this end point in time, things are ratcheting up and there are just so many things. There's so many distractions. There, just so many things. There's so many distractions, there's so many opportunities. There's so many things buying for your attention, and that is on purpose yeah and I just think that we all, we all have to be.
David McIntyre:You know, there was a time for the believer. You know, from if you go back to the early days, they didn't have to deal with some of the distractions that exist in our world today. Now they had their own stuff that they had to deal with and overcome and things like that. But I think every generation gets an opportunity to take victory over some things and you know, the word tells us that in the last days that knowledge would run to and fro in the earth right, yeah, that knowledge would just.
David McIntyre:But did you ever think to yourself what would it be like to be in that to and fro?
Phillip Rich:Right.
David McIntyre:And right now we have so much information zooming by our hands. There's so much going on in our world, so many distractions that are outside of the world, but then there are also distractions that are created inside of our world, and it's literally it feels like it's coming at you from every side. Yeah, and I believe that that's an attempt to part.
David McIntyre:Part of it is a natural flow of things, but part of it is being used as an attempt to distract you yeah and attempt to pull you off of what matters most and get your attention away from god and on the things that don't matter, so that you will fall. And that's what I love about this series and like that phil fills the crafter of this series that there is a way for you not to fall.
Phillip Rich:Yeah.
David McIntyre:And I think that maybe some people never realized it or thought about it or really saw it that Jesus said, or that Paul Peter said, that you know, if you walk this way, you'll never fall, and so it is worth our while and our attention and effort to understand all the pieces that are a part of this never falling, so that we can employ them in our lives.
Phillip Rich:Absolutely. And so, of course, I think a good way to start off is to just go through that passage in 2 Peter, in chapter 1, I think it starts with verse maybe four or five. There it is. It says in verse four through well, let me just back into verse three, why not? It says his divine power, obviously talking about God, his divine power has given us everything we need for life and godliness through the knowledge of him who called us by his own glory and excellence. Through these, his glory and excellence, he has given us his precious and magnificent promises. So now we're talking about something that God has said right His precious and magnificent promises, so that through them you may become partakers of the divine nature, having escaped oh, now that you have escaped, sorry the corruption in the world caused by evil desires.
Phillip Rich:And in verse five is where we get into the meat of what this series is about. It says, for this very reason, make every effort to add to your faith virtue. So that's item number one is virtue. And to virtue add knowledge To knowledge, self-control To self-control, perseverance To perseverance, godliness, and to godliness, brotherly kindness that's where we're going to be camping out tonight or today and to brotherly kindness, love. And then he says this in verse eight if you possess these qualities and continue to grow in them so this is an ongoing process they will keep you from being ineffective and unproductive in your knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. But now he gives you the flip side. But whoever lacks these traits is nearsighted to the point of blindness, having forgotten that he has been cleansed from his past sins. So therefore, brothers, in verse 10, strive there's that word again, like you got to push towards something.
Phillip Rich:Now up there in verse five, it says make every effort, and down here it says strive. So we see there's something that we have to put our hands to here. Therefore, brothers, strive to make your calling and election sure, for if you practice these things, you will never stumble and you will receive a lavish reception into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior, jesus Christ. So in verse 10, that phrase, you'll never stumble. In the King James version it says you shall never fall. So that's where we're kind of getting our theme from here.
Phillip Rich:And you know, if we want the end result of something like let's say that we didn't see any part of this passage except that last one, verse 10. If you do this, you'll never fall, you'll never stumble. Your first thought is sounds great, how do I do it? Then you back up and you read the list of the things that he told us to add to our faith, and we've covered virtue. We covered knowledge, self-control, perseverance, godliness, and I think that was it. We've covered those up to this point. Now we're on this one of brotherly kindness and we're going to also cover love in this episode. So, david, I know you were looking up some things earlier about it. Tell us more about that.
David McIntyre:Yeah, I wanted to just throw one other thought into what you just said. As you set this up, don't ever forget the importance of verses three and four in this conversation, because three and four really are the setup and the hook, it's the how-to in this piece and it's the how to in this piece and it's the why, it's purpose. And you hook up 3 and 4 and you understand that, and you realize that 5, 6, and 7 are the path, and then 8, 9, and ten, part of eleven, reinforce the benefits. You really will grab hold to what's here, but don't lose sight of three and four in the midst of this concept. So tonight we're talking about both.
David McIntyre:We're doubling down here at the end of these virtues, because we have both brotherly love and love. And if any of you are like me, when you look at that it was like well, I know love is agape, that's what I do know. I know love is the Greek word for agape. So what's the difference between brotherly love and just the regular love that's listed here? And so that, of course, sent me to digging over there. And we look at this word brotherly love or brotherly kindness that is, I'm sorry, brotherly kindness comes from the, the greek word philadelphia, and uh. So now we're, we're realizing we're not. We're not talking about the city, the city of brotherly love, where sometimes there is no love, um, but there are. By the way, side note, they have amazing Philly cheese sandwiches.
Phillip Rich:Truth.
David McIntyre:If you've never had one, live there, not the ones that you get at your own little place in your own hometown. I'm talking about an in Philly Philly cheesesteak. Yeah, that'll change your life.
Phillip Rich:Yeah, truth.
David McIntyre:But anyway, philadelphia. The city actually gets its name from this Greek word, philadelphia, and it means brotherly love or brotherly kindness. It goes on to say love of the brethren, and then it defines it as fraternal, having to do with siblings, in one sense affection. And so as we dig into this, we begin to find out that what Peter is talking about here is a brotherly love between Christian believers. We, as those who are born again into Christ, have now become a family together, and in this family we have brotherly kindness, we have brotherly love towards one another, meaning we take care of one another, we try to do for one another, we pray for one another, we try to do for one another, we pray for one another, we look for the other's well-being and for good to happen and come to them. So all the things that you would think that brotherly kindness or brotherly love is are fairly likely to be connected to this. When we look at the helps word study, it talks about Philadelphia. It comes from the Greek word, from philos, meaning loving friend, and adelphos, a brother, properly affection for the brethren, for fellow believers. And now, when you see this, you begin to realize just how much you've seen this throughout the Bible, it's all over the place. If you look at Romans 12.10, it tells us to be kindly affectioned one to another, with brotherly love and honor preferring one another.
David McIntyre:If you look at 1 Thessalonians 4 and 9, 1 Thessalonians 4 and 9 reminds us. But as touching brotherly love, you need not that I write unto you, for you, yourselves are taught of God to love one another. In other words, for the Thessalonians, Paul had already seen in them this brotherly love, this brotherly affection towards one another that clearly he says was taught of God. They were taught of God to love one another. You can also look up at it in Hebrew 13 and 1. It says let brotherly love continue. It says let brotherly love continue. So let brotherly love continue to happen, continue to flow and continue to work. Even in 1 Peter 1.22, it says seeing you have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that you love one another with a pure heart fervently. When it says unfeigned, it means your love is not fake.
Phillip Rich:That's right.
David McIntyre:It means the opposite, that this is a real, genuine love. So it says genuine love of the brethren. So we're seeing that same thing happen, and I'll give you one more In 1 Peter, 3 and 8, it says finally, be all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous. So we're even supposed to love as brethren. So over and over again, particularly in the New Testament, we are told and guided and directed to show love for, and particularly brotherly love for, one another.
Phillip Rich:So what are you?
Phillip Rich:thinking right now I was thinking about how, when we talk about you know fellow believers, we're talking about those who have accepted Jesus as their Lord. They know Jesus was crucified, buried, resurrected on their behalf and their sins are forgiven. You know they've accepted all those. You know tenets of the faith. They are our fellow believers and it's almost like as soon as you find that out about somebody, there should be something in you that goes that's my people. You know, it's almost like and I don't mean to sound like it's exclusive, but it's almost like you're part of the club too. Huh, you know it's that kind of thing and it should.
David McIntyre:But hey, Phil, I don't think there's anything wrong with what you just said, because it is exclusive. It is Because while membership is available to everybody, everybody hadn't chosen to access the club.
Phillip Rich:That's true, that's true. Yep, it's the most inclusive of all the exclusive things out there, because anybody can come to him at any time, and he said Jesus said, he that comes to me, I will in no wise cast them out, you know. So it's like the invitation is wide open. You can come to him and get born again and start living for him and walking with him, and I'm telling you it'll be the best decision you've ever made. I promise you that. But in terms of like, how we interact with each other, you know, as soon as I find out that I'm interacting with a fellow believer there, you know there's something in me that's like that's my people, man, you know, and if they need anything, I'll do what I can to help them. You know the Bible talks about that in Galatians 6, I think it is.
Phillip Rich:It says as we have opportunity, let's do good to everyone, but especially to those who are of the household of faith, and that includes anybody who's been who's, who's proclaimed Jesus as their Lord and Savior. You belong to the household of faith, and so there should be something in us household of faith, and so there should be something in us if we see a fellow believer that has a need. There's qualifiers at times because you've got people who can manipulate and all that kind of stuff, but generally speaking, it should be an idea or an attitude of if they need help, I'll help them. Why? Because they're a fellow believer in Christ. If they need help, I'll help them. Why? Because they're a fellow believer in Christ.
Phillip Rich:We should be doing for one another like that, and that's what it says in Philippians 2. It says every man should not only look on his own things but also on the things of others, look out for the interests of others as well. There's all kinds of scriptures all through Paul's letters where he talks about what we call the one another's. You know how do we treat one another? Submit to one another in the fear of the Lord, be kindly, affection to one another. All those things are there through many different letters that Paul wrote, and the whole idea was to create a community of people that were Christ-like and Christ-minded and that would not have need of anything because they knew that their fellow believers would help them in their time of need and vice versa.
David McIntyre:That's good, Phil, that's good. So when we look here at this brotherly love, it really is a to me, and I don't know how about you, how you feel about it, Philip, but it's a call. Yeah, Brotherly love is a call. And it's unlike. This is not your love. Everybody, you know, call, you know this is a. This is specifically that person, and you are now part of the same body, which is christ yep, absolutely and you owe one another to love one another, to serve one another and ensure each other's well-being.
David McIntyre:That's right. Does that make sense, phil?
Phillip Rich:A hundred percent because it talks about, you know, in 1 Corinthians 12, paul says you know, you're the body of Christ, and then members, in particular, you know, and he said it's not right to think well, because I'm a hand and the other guys a foot. You know we don't need each other. You know well, no, you're all part of the same body.
Phillip Rich:You know any part of the body that gets injured. Your whole self feels it right. You know, I remember it was been probably four or five years ago I broke my thumb, like it was the most stupid thing ever, but I broke my thumb. I was out there playing basketball with these these kids and trying to be cool and feed the ball to them and all this kind of stuff, you know. And this dude tried to tried to shoot a shot from half court and didn't tell anybody. And all of a sudden I turn around and this ball's coming at me, you know, with the speed of a thousand demons and um and it. I put my hand up or whatever, and then all of a sudden it just like it just bent my thumb the most awkward way possible and I ended up breaking it. I had to go to the hospital, got x-rays. That thing was just. It was jacked up, um, um, but my whole self was in a way for quite a few weeks after that.
Phillip Rich:You know the things you take for granted that you don't realize. You know when they're functioning, okay, you're fine, but as soon as something's going wrong with it, it's like dadgummit, I can't button a shirt right now. You know what I mean and it's you know little things like that. You don't realize you know little things like that. You don't realize you know that when one member of the body is suffering, it can affect like everything else. So that's similar. It's the similar concept that Paul was talking about in first Corinthians. It's like you know, if there's a member of the body suffering, you know we we need to be able to, to do whatever we can do to help them in their time of need, because there might come a time when we have a need and it'd be great to have that seed in the ground, you know, so you can harvest some help from somebody else.
David McIntyre:Yeah, and you know, the other thing that's cool about it is that when something happens to one part of your body, your whole body comes to the aid. It sure does your whole body comes to the aid, it sure does. Internally there are blood vessels and your bloodstream there are t-cells, there are all kinds of things rushing to that area to try to help to make it better. But then there are other parts of your body. You know philip breaks his finger.
David McIntyre:Now other parts of the body realize they're going to need to help compensate for a period of time, Different fingers gain fresh new dexterity in order to try to help button up his shirt that still is unbuttonable. You even realize that when I hurt my knee not long ago Actually it was a couple years ago when we went to disney- I remember that, I remember that and you know. But what was important is that hurt my left knee but my right leg and my right arms both of my arms and other parts of my body were helping to compensate the carrying of my weight.
Phillip Rich:That's right.
David McIntyre:So that it could take pressure off of the knee in order for the knee to heal. And that's what we're supposed to be like for one another when we find a brother at fault or in need. We're supposed to be. It goes back to gosh Phil. I think we had this conversation back the last episode our responsibility to care for one another. Yeah, when we were talking about Galatians 6. Yeah, you know, and we were, you know. We just have to realize and we've said it before and we'll say it again we desperately need one another. Yeah.
Phillip Rich:We desperately need each another.
David McIntyre:Yeah, we desperately need each other, for the good times and for the bad times, that's true, and um, we've just gotta. We've gotta make room for one another and we've got to help one another, and we can't be so stand up. We live in a world that's really, honestly, honestly, it's so fearful these days.
Jon Dzyuba:Yeah, this world has taught us not to trust anyone.
David McIntyre:Never believe anybody's story, you know. Just mind your own business, do your own thing and stay out of the way. And, of course, my favorite pull out your phone and record everything, but don't intervene at all. You're literally watching a man get clobbered on the streets. And your best bet is to just pull out your phone and not try to help him get out of that fire that they're in or to stop the fight. I still don't get that to this day.
David McIntyre:Yeah, it makes no sense but we've been taught fearful tactics, and God wants us to be bold and courageous and to take the opportunity to step in, even when we're sometimes dealing with strangers. What does that mean, though, and can we just have an honest conversation? Yeah, it means that sometimes you may be taken advantage. Have an honest conversation yeah, it means that sometimes you may be taken advantage of well, yeah, yeah you may be taken advantage of and you have to ask yourself if I'm taking advantage of you know, can my faith survive it?
Phillip Rich:and I think it's not overwhelming.
David McIntyre:Yes, your faith can survive it and you can learn from it, and you can discern things better on the other side. I mean, don't you think, phil?
Phillip Rich:Absolutely. And there's always that element of if you want to call it, risk. You know, when you do give of yourself or offer something to somebody, there's always that element of risk where they could be lying to you, they could be trying to take advantage of you or manipulate you, and sometimes those things are blatantly plain as day and you can see them a mile away. Other times somebody can pull off a nice con artist act and you really do feel like you got taken, you know. But at the end of the day, whatever the result is, you know, in terms of what the other person's motive might be, that's not in your hands. You know Jesus said you know, love your enemies. He said lend to others hoping for nothing back. You know it was like wow, okay, so I need to treat every loan like it's a gift, right, according to Jesus. You know, because he understood human nature, he knows there's going to be people who are, you know, tricksters and con artists and manipulators and liars. I mean that's you know, that's the world we're living in a lot of ways. But you have to leave all of that up to God, like that's not in your hands. No-transcript ashamed of at all.
Phillip Rich:Yeah, you did what you did out of the earnestness of your heart, because you wanted to do what the Bible is talking about all the time, which is to be kindly affectioned and to help people and give as you have opportunity. So you are simply following what the word says and a lot of times you do end up with that result from what the words are. Not a lot of times, but maybe sometimes you end up with that result of sometimes there are people that take advantage, but at the end of the day you cast all those cares on God and you trust him to. You know, he said vengeance is mine, I will repay. So it's like I leave that in God's hands and I definitely can say and I know, david, you probably have stories as well say, the times where I got taken advantage of and found out later, or suffered some loss from it or whatever. I mean 10 times out of 10, god was able to restore number one and then also he dealt with whoever was, you know, taking advantage of it.
David McIntyre:I mean that's I don't mean to snap them off the planet.
Phillip Rich:But things sometimes didn't turn out well for them Right and you guys.
David McIntyre:it's important to note too that people being shysty, being dishonest and all of that predates you. It goes back to the oldest of times. Look, you know, at some point in man's existence people just tried stuff and it really is a part of sin, honestly.
David McIntyre:It's a part of sin, and so you leave that to God. But then the reason why you're able to leave it to God is the next virtue that's connected here, and it's the virtue of love. And I think it's relevant that this is the last of the virtues that Peter lists out, because I think it's the all-consuming virtue, and I think it is from this, as we talked about when we talked in Galatians, chapter 5, and we talked about the fruit of the Spirit that love is the virtue, or the fruit of the spirit, that love is the virtue, that all, or the fruit of the spirit, that all of the other fruit are born out of that's right that's literally.
David McIntyre:You could sit here and say you know that, you know you've added to your faith virtue and to virtue knowledge and all of these other pieces, and all of it comes from brotherly love. It leads us to love, yeah, and love is now. Brotherly love said take care of and love your brother and sister in Christ. Now, this love says there is a love for all people that you should have. It is the God kind of love. It's the love that. It's the love that god sees and deals with, the world with. And that is, um, you know, some people would say that that is a high wall to climb.
David McIntyre:You would be absolutely right yeah it is, but nonetheless, jesus calls us to that. I want to read this for you out of our my commentary. It says the chain climaxes with christian love, the supreme evidence that one is a believer. Wow, all said.
David McIntyre:Love is the goal of christian instruction yes as first corinthians 12 of through 13 or 12. Well, the end, the last verse of 12, and into understanding, you know, the deep scripture on love in first corinthians 13. It tells us that it is the most excellent way and that this virtue, the virtue that sums up all other virtues, is love yeah, yeah it's like, yeah, I can.
David McIntyre:I can extend virtue, which is moral goodness. Because of love, I want to extend knowledge and be helpful to you. Because of love, you know, I want to be patient with you and help you get to the end. Because of love, that's right. Love is the driver. And if you look at 1 Timothy 1.5, it says now the end of the commandment is charity or love out of a pure heart and of a good conscience and of faith.
David McIntyre:Unfeigned, remember once again. Unfeigned, remember once again. Unfeigned means, uh, not fake, that's right genuine real faith that is genuine and real, from which some, having swerved, have turned aside unto vain jangling or vain babbling and carrying on about. So there's, you know, there's the path of love, and it leads to clarity and supporting people, loving people, and really it's taking each of those individual virtues and saying each one of these is a gift that I have access to.
David McIntyre:Let me just pour this out on you. Oh, I think you probably need some knowledge here. Let me see what I can do and you pour out that thing. But then in other places you need some perseverance, some ability to hold up under the pressure, and you have that to share and to give to someone else to help them to hold up in that process.
David McIntyre:It's the being able to give away what God has given you in order to benefit others, and there's a benefit for the brothers and sisters in Christ, and then there's this benefit that's designed for the world. It says anyone who loves will possess the other qualities. Peter mentioned the false teachers. Now, remember, peter is dealing with false teachers. The false teachers are lacking in faith and love and therefore are not genuine believers at all Wow.
Phillip Rich:Wow Goodness.
David McIntyre:It led me to think about how you've kind of opened up some of these episodes and talking about people falling away, and now, now we see, one of the reasons why people fall away is that they are lacking in faith and love and therefore they're not genuine believers at all.
Ryan Holdeman:And here.
David McIntyre:Here's one other thing, Philip, and I'll give this over to you To say that someone who is lacking in faith and love are not genuine believers at all, that's saying something. Yes, yeah, because you saw, verse 5 is anchored. We talk about the seven qualities, but really there are eight. It anchors faith at the beginning. It just starts with. Faith is present. And then you add to that and then you end with love and everything else is in the middle.
Phillip Rich:Gosh, dude, you made me think of something. It's the ultimate test of your faith in God, or whether or not you're a believer. Is the fact that you're walking in the love of God Like that's? That's bar none the number one thing. And it's funny because even people who are not saved and don't claim to be saved, they can spot a hypocrite in a heartbeat. They know when a Christian's not being real about their walk with God.
Phillip Rich:And they'll be the first to call it out, won't they, matt? It's like gosh. That's not very Christian of you. You know they'll say stuff like that.
David McIntyre:Yes, they will.
Phillip Rich:And sometimes they've got a point. You know, I mean it's interesting, like some of these scandals that have hit. You know, we've seen people who are on the outside of the body of Christ and they can see plainly that what this preacher was doing was completely wrong. Like he's we find out he's manipulating young women in the church and, you know, grooming them to end up, you know, having some kind of weirdo sexual relationship with him off to the side, even though he's married. This stuff has happened over and over again and what's wild is that a person who's not even saved can look at something like that and go, oh my gosh, what a creep, you know, what a predator, you know, I mean, and they see it plain as day.
Phillip Rich:But then people inside the church, maybe people who were the preacher's right hand man, maybe they were his, you know his prayer minister or his worship leader, and they're trying to give this benefit of the doubt where it's not due. Where it's not due, because if everything gets found out and the facts come forward and there's no denying that the man was doing this stuff, there's no defense for that kind of a person, there's just not. And so that kind of a person, like you said, david, I can't believe that they're a genuine believer. I can't Manipulating young women and ruining their lives by sexually assaulting them or doing some crazy stuff with them. That's not love, you know what I mean. So, and I know I'm being very specific with that situation. But there's other things too, other situations, that that where this same thing applies and you have to ask yourself like, can I really say that's a person who's in the faith and they're also doing stuff like that. You know, can I really say that's a genuine believer at this point?
David McIntyre:You know I mean you might almost think that what the Lord is doing is giving us a criteria in which that we can look at things and discern yeah, a hundred percent, because the reality is and we know this through jude, we know this through, particularly through the last couple of books of the bible there are people who enter into the church with no good, no.
Phillip Rich:No.
Phillip Rich:In mind Evil agendas, selfish agendas, and this is what gets me about it. I heard a gentleman say this a long time ago. Oh man, I forgot his name, anyway Edwin Lewis Cole. I don't know if you remember Edwin Lewis Cole, oh yeah. Yeah, he said love is the desire to benefit others even at the expense of self. And he said the opposite of love is lust. Lust is the desire to benefit self even at the expense of others.
Phillip Rich:And I was like, dude, that's good and it really, you know, it makes it plain, like when you look at it that way, it makes it plain what love is and what it's not. If you're seeing somebody who everything they do, every move they make or whatever in life is designed to benefit them, even at the expense of other people, that's not a person walking in love period, that's a person walking in lust of the flesh or in some type of, you know, selfishness that doesn't come from God. But when you see on the other side, a person walking in lust of the flesh or in some type of selfishness, that doesn't come from God. But when you see on the other side a person who's constantly giving, a person who is willing to go without so that others can have and things like that. That's a person walking in the love of God and man. When you look at it in those terms, it makes it pretty plain which way we should be going.
David McIntyre:You look and what you need is you need, in some cases, you just need a little time. Yeah, you need a little time to observe, you don't? Sometimes we go into situations talking and doing too much, where we need to talk a little and do a little, but observe a lot observe a lot.
David McIntyre:You'll learn, or even in the midst of your doing as you're doing and you observe things around you as you're doing, you'll begin to learn and you'll begin to discern things that will help you in this process. So remind me next week that I want to talk about the concept of trying to let me. The best way to say it is this concept of hearing about these virtues, hearing about the fruit of the spirit, and then trying to put it on yourself, versus allowing God to put it on for you, I heard something that was good and I thought I'd share it tonight, but we're just out of time tonight, and so I want to encourage you read 1 Corinthians 13.
Phillip Rich:Yes.
David McIntyre:It's such a great book, a great chapter on love that I think will actually help you, it'll help your walk and it'll open a door to you that I think that if you'll follow it, you'll see great things happen in your life. Any final thoughts? And then you want to pray for people, for both this brotherly love and the love of God to be shed abroad in their hearts. Yeah, absolutely.
Phillip Rich:I just want to echo what you said, david this brotherly love and the love of God to be shed abroad in their hearts. Yeah, absolutely. I just want to echo what you said, david, about reading first Corinthians 13. I encourage everyone out there listening to do that, to read it in different translations. There's some really good translations that bring out different kind of facets of it. That, I think, will really help you understand what it looks like to walk in love, you know. So I encourage everyone to do that. But let's go ahead and pray over just our love walk. I think I don't know of anyone who doesn't need some improvement in that area. I definitely need it myself. So we'll just pray over that right now.
Phillip Rich:But, father, we thank you for what you shared tonight by way of the Holy Spirit.
Phillip Rich:But, father, we thank you for what you shared tonight by way of the Holy Spirit.
Phillip Rich:We ask you, father, to show us, by way of the Spirit of God, how to walk in love in line with what your word says, and not only showing us how, father, but also giving us the strength and the wisdom and the courage to be able to do it. We know that we can't do anything without you. You said in your word apart from me, you can do nothing, and we 100% believe that and know that to be true. And so, lord, we ask you to just use us, help us In this time where the love of many is waxing cold. Just like your word said, help us to stand out by being willing to love, being willing to be generous, being willing to give and to show mercy, even at times when those things are hard to find in society. But we pray, father, that you will use us as vessels and that you would do as what I think is maybe 2 Corinthians or 2 Thessalonians says, where you said may your love increase and abound more and more in knowledge and in all judgment.
Phillip Rich:We pray for that over ourselves, over everyone listening. Help us to increase our love so that it abounds more and more in our lives, and we give you praise for that, father. We just thank you for all that you do to help us every day. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen.
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