Bible, Bros & Brew

How to Keep From Falling (Part 8) | How to Build Patience When Life Gets Hard

• David McIntyre, Phillip Rich, & Jon Dzyuba • Season 7 • Episode 8

Share episode

As we continue our journey through the seven character-building qualities listed in 2 Peter 1:5-8, David & Phil take a pit stop to talk about the power and importance of perseverance. The King James Version translates this word as "patience" in 2 Peter 1:6, and it conveys the idea of hopeful and cheerful endurance, or patient continuance. Probably more than any other episode, David & Phil share personal insights and stories of battle scars and lessons learned as a result of not operating in this essential virtue of steady perseverance. So brew up your favorite cup of java, have your Bible at hand, and join us as we explore the treasures in God's Word that will help us build the vital concepts of endurance and perseverance into our daily lives!  

 

Be sure to download the Study Guide for this episode! You can find it at this link:

🙏 Thanks for watching Bible, Bros & Brew!
We’re glad you’re here. This is where faith meets real talk — with Scripture, conversation, and a good cup of coffee. Each week, we dig into what it means to follow Jesus in real life — no fluff, no filters.

đź“© Want to go deeper?
Join our mailing list here to get the free weekly study guide that goes with each episode. It’s perfect for personal reflection, discipleship, or small group discussion. 



📱 Follow us and stay connected:
▶️ YouTube
📸 Instagram
🎵 TikTok
🎥 Rumble

đź‘Ť Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and tap the bell so you never miss an episode. 

đź’¬ Got thoughts, questions, or something you’d like us to cover? Drop a comment — we read every one. 

Until next time — stay rooted, stay real, and keep the faith strong. ✌️

gotbrew@biblebros.net

David McIntyre:

We've been talking about seven virtues that are found in 2 Peter, chapter 1, starting in verses 5 and 6. And in those virtues are really the ways that we ought to live, or the ways that we ought to govern ourselves in order to live successfully in this earth and as the Bible says, and to not fall or stumble. Well, if you want to figure out how not to fall or stumble in this life, this next episode is for you. We're talking about perseverance on Bible Bros and Brew. I'm David and with me today I've got Philip on one side and John on the other side. Pick the finger. That is appropriate and that's the person I'm pointing at.

David McIntyre:

We're so glad that you've joined us today. We've got a really good episode to talk about tonight, because we're going to be continuing down the list of virtues that we find in 2 Peter, chapter 1, and we're going to kick off by talking about perseverance. Now we may backtrack a little bit and just do a little bit of a review over what we talked about last week, but before we do that, we want to, of course, first find out what's in the cup, because, as you know, I believe a good coffee makes you more conversational, and so let's find out if these guys are going to have good conversation or just suffer with their coffees tonight. All right, john, what you drinking tonight?

Jon Dzyuba:

oh goodness, I went on something simple. I I started thinking about it too much and I just realized I don't, I don't need to. I went with a medium. I went with a medium roast coffee. I had a little, uh, caramel creamer and it's. I actually haven't tried it yet. I'm assuming it's going to be good.

Jon Dzyuba:

But you know, let's try it live tasting here we go I like it it's okay, I had to figure it out for a second, but I do like yes, um, yes, yes, uh, yeah, I, I just needed something simple today and it works. It really is pretty good um I might finish that before. Uh, you guys finish talking about your cups of coffee. To be honest, with you.

David McIntyre:

Okay, slow down, man, slow down, just a wee bit.

Jon Dzyuba:

I got a little excited Sorry.

David McIntyre:

What's in your cup.

Phillip Rich:

You know, david, lest I be accused of being a one-trick pony. I have brought a new coffee brand into the fold here, dude, wait a minute, Wait a minute.

Phillip Rich:

I mean, look, man, I wish I was lying, but I'm not. Actually, I should never wish that I'm lying, but anyway, suffice it to say I'm taking risks. And I saw this coffee in Publix the other day and I was like, okay, let me just see what's going on. It had a cool looking label and I said, man, let me just give it a shot, because it's locally roasted, it's a roaster in Atlanta. The name of the coffee is Coffee man, coffee man. And, as the label says, no, just coffee, right.

Phillip Rich:

So, um, I decided to go with the honduras, the, the, the medium roast, and it has notes of caramel, it's nutty and they say classic. Um, dude, let me tell you I have been pleasantly surprised at how good this coffee is, man. Really, it's legit. It is legit, man. I can't even hardly believe that I like it as much as I do. And let me just say it this way Outside of Peregrine, which is the gold standard, this is the best one I've tried of any coffees that I've tried lately. Yeah, so shout out to Coffee man, coffee in Atlanta. You guys have my vote, man.

Jon Dzyuba:

And let it be known he's tried a lot of coffees. So, this is a statement. This is a wild statement.

Phillip Rich:

I'm telling you, man Been around the world and aye, aye, aye.

David McIntyre:

As a matter of fact, you can't find your coffee, I can't find your coffee, oh god anyway.

Phillip Rich:

So, david, what's going on in your cup?

David McIntyre:

man, you 80s babies. I'll tell you what, uh, for me. I just gone. I I know you've heard me bemoan my forays into the k cupcup, and it's not because I don't think the k-cup is real coffee. It clearly is real coffee. Um, it's just that I prefer variety. But lately, every time we get to the episode, I've been like I want quick and easy today, and so today I've gone back to a good old friend. It's, uh, it's from lidl actually. So please don't judge me. But if you do judge me, just go check out the prices and you'll understand.

Phillip Rich:

There you go.

David McIntyre:

But this is maple bourbon, and I'm starting to think did I have that last week too?

Jon Dzyuba:

I feel like I had that last week.

Phillip Rich:

Okay, I know it sounds familiar to me, but I don't know, I'm not sure. I know it sounds familiar to me, but I don't, yeah, I'm not sure.

David McIntyre:

I'm going to tell y'all this maple bourbon is slamming. I'd be lying to say this is the first time I've had it this week. Okay, and then I dropped a little cinnamon on top just to add a little piece de resistance to the coffee. So there you go, I am drinking maple bourbon from um the good folks at leadle. I'm sure there's some other company behind it, though, so oh, you know what david ryan just chimed in.

Phillip Rich:

He said you had the coconut cinnamon. And now I remember that because of uh, all the brown sugar yeah, the brown sugar.

David McIntyre:

That's what it was, the brown sugar yeah, yeah, brown sugar that's what it was if you

Jon Dzyuba:

don't know what we're talking about. You should definitely check out that last episode. That's right, it was brown sugar.

David McIntyre:

Yes, uh, hold on, just um. Hey, ryan. Ryan's calling me on the phone. Long time listener, first time caller. Go ahead caller.

Phillip Rich:

You're on the air.

Jon Dzyuba:

We can't hear you.

Phillip Rich:

I can't hear him, but.

David McIntyre:

Yes, we just saw your note on YouTube and we verified that it was actually brown sugar and we appreciate you participating in the show this week. Hurry up and get your butt online.

Phillip Rich:

There it is. Yes, ryan's comment, I love it.

David McIntyre:

You're drinking what Ryan would like everybody to know. Who misses him right now that he is drinking iced coffee from Pete's? Again, thank you for your contribution. You're on the verge of being fired.

Phillip Rich:

Pete's will put hair in your chest that's our first call in ever somebody who should just simply be here.

David McIntyre:

There's that. That's what's in our cups. We're going to talk about what's in the word, but first we want to remind you don't forget to like and subscribe to this episode. We would love to have you as part of the Bible Bros and Brew family. And don't forget, if you go down into the description section, there is an area for you to subscribe to our new weekly study guide. So with every episode now we're releasing a study guide to go with it. That will help you. It not only does it break down what we've talked about, but it also gives you scripture to take a look at and it also encourages you to take some steps to take action on what you're hearing and what you're reading, and that's a critically important portion of your Bible study.

David McIntyre:

I know that a lot of people think and I'm going to go out here on a ledge so you guys can pull me back but Bible study isn't just what you read, it's also what you live. Yeah, in other words, what you read should at some point come out in your life. And if it doesn't come out into your life, then there are some questions that we have for you. But inevitably this should all pour out. So we just want to encourage you to go ahead and click on the link or copy and paste the link into a new window tab, and you can just sign up for that mailing, that study guide, and we'll ship it out for you All.

David McIntyre:

Right now let's jump into the word. You know, as we, as you know, we've been looking at 2 Peter, chapter 1, and over the last couple of weeks we've been specifically focused into the areas of verses 5 and 6, and I think we're about to slip into seven as well. But we've been talking about the virtues that are there, and I think we'll start by reading verse five, where it says for this very reason, make every effort to add to your faith virtue and to virtue, knowledge and to knowledge, self-control and to self-control. Perseverance and to perseverance, godliness and to godliness. Brotherly kindness and to brotherly kindness. Love. For if you possess these qualities and continue to grow in them, they will keep you from being ineffective and unproductive in your knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. But whoever lacks these traits is nearsighted to the point of blindness, having forgotten that he has been cleansed from his past sins. Therefore, brothers, strive to make your calling and election sure, for if you practice these things, you will never stumble. The King James says you will never fall and you'll receive a lavish reception into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior, jesus Christ.

David McIntyre:

And so, as we look at these things we started off by looking at three through four, three and four, looking at three through four, three and four. And you know, I just want to remind us kind of what we're driving at here. And what we're driving at is in verse three, where it says His divine power has given us everything we need for life and godliness through the knowledge of Him, who called us by His own glory and excellence. So we understand that everything we need that pertains to life and godliness has already been given to us through the knowledge of him. And these seven virtues are, if you will, they're like study guides within the Bible that say dig into this, dig into this, dig into this, this and this, because these are the things that are a part of your life in godliness. These are the things that are going to help you to keep from stumbling, to help you to keep from falling and help you to walk out this life with God.

David McIntyre:

And so, as we talked last week, we talked about the concept of self-control, and we talked about how self-control communicates this concept of dominion within, dominion within, but not by yourself. So that means self-control means that I can choose it. I have the will to choose it, and by choosing that right thing of the way God would have me to go or to keep myself from reacting in a way that is ungodly, I can choose that action. Then the Holy Spirit steps in and empowers that action. And so self-control, we learned, was something that was not in ourselves alone, but it's our partnership with the Holy Spirit, it's our partnership with the Father that empowers that self-control in our life. Philip, was there something that stood out to you from last week about self-control and that conversation? Man?

Phillip Rich:

I think one of the things we touched on.

Phillip Rich:

Possibly I got to go back and look at it to be sure, but that scripture in Proverbs always comes back to my mind, where it says that a person who lacks self-control is like a city with broken down walls and basically meaning you have no defense, and I think that's something, a nugget, that can be taken from that scripture and just from the whole idea of self-control, is that it really does act as a defense, it's something that actually protects you.

Phillip Rich:

I think a lot of times we think of self-control as maybe putting you know. A lot of times we think of self-control as maybe putting you know, restrictive type of measures on our life to where we, you know, I can't do anything I really want to do and that kind of thing and I can't have any fun, you know, or whatever we're thinking. But actually most of the stuff that self-control is there for is are the things that you don't need to be involved in in the first place. Um, so to me definitely, uh, that that, that quality or that virtue of self-control is a defense against temptation, against, uh, going off on paths that you don't need to go down, because, man, you know, the Bible makes it clear that there are ways that seem right, paths that seem right, but at the end of them are the ways of death. It says in like Proverbs 14. So, yeah, self-control as a defense is a real thing.

David McIntyre:

Well, you just think about it, if you consider that proverb for just a minute, the purpose of a wall around the city is to protect it.

Phillip Rich:

Exactly, exactly.

David McIntyre:

And you just think, in our day-to-day lives we have offenses that come against us, we have people with their stuff, uh, that come against us or that come towards us. We have real life issues that uh push themselves outside of the walls of your life if you will.

David McIntyre:

And they, if you, if you don't have self-control, then you constantly are being invaded until you're conquered. And with self-control it's as if you're able to summon up the wall and to protect yourself from the offenses and the other things that are coming at you with the help of the Holy Spirit supporting you and guiding you in that process, so that you'll be strengthened and fortified in what you're doing. So that self-control is a really important factor. And now we look at another important factor and that is this concept of perseverance. Philip, you want to talk about perseverance first, or how you want to do that.

Phillip Rich:

Yeah, no, I'll just throw something out there real quick. The King James, for that verse says patience, but then most of the other translations you'll read it says something along the lines of perseverance, or I think even one may say determination. I might be wrong about that, but I feel like I've read that somewhere before. But when we talk about perseverance, we're talking about that ability to keep going even when you're up against opposition of some kind. That really is the quality of perseverance. Is there has to be something there resisting you for it to even be perseverance? If you think about it, if there's nothing, no obstacles or roadblocks in your way, then it wouldn't even, it'd just be a walk in the park.

Phillip Rich:

But perseverance is that thing, that quality that gets called up from your spirit to help you push through when you meet resistance or meet even sometimes your own laziness or your own, you know, lack of consistency with some things. So I think that's important too. But I think, john, it looks like you have that verse up. If you don't mind putting that's important too. But I think, john, it looks like you have that verse up, if you don't mind putting that on the screen, and I'd like for us to look up that, the Strong's number, for that perseverance there, if you could please, sir, there we go into knowledge, temperance, patience. There it is, yep, there we go right that's close there we go, as if.

David McIntyre:

I know the Greek. You could have fooled me, dude. I've been studying the phonetics. I was like there you go, as if I know the Greek, you could have fooled me, dude. I've been studying the phonetics.

Phillip Rich:

I was like that looks like hupomone, but underneath, where it says Strong's Exhaustive Concordance, it says Endo meaning cheerful or hopeful endurance and constancy. Enduring patience, patient, continuance and then, in parentheses, waiting. This is what's interesting about it. I like the fact that David that he points out cheerful and hopeful endurance.

David McIntyre:

That is something that yeah, I made note of that too, Philip.

Phillip Rich:

Yeah, it's like something you're doing with an expectancy of good at the end of it, and I think that's very important because you're not enduring for no reason you know. The Bible says in Hebrews 11 that God is a rewarder of those who diligently seek him, and so those rewards can come after the perseverance is there. And actually if you read I think it's in Hebrews 6, it talks about Abraham and it said you know, god gave a promise to Abraham and it said that you know, abraham had to patiently endure before he could obtain the promise. But once he did patiently endure, he obtained it. So, david, I mean that to me speaks volumes. It's like patient endurance is almost like the bridge that gets you to the promise that God has for you.

David McIntyre:

Yeah, I love that. And I agree with you, philip, that the concept of cheerful or hopeful endurance means that you are enduring, you're, you're bearing up under your sustaining, you're patiently waiting, you're continuing on with the hope or the expectation of some good, and one of the, if you'll look it up, that word hope means the earnest expectation of good.

Phillip Rich:

Yes, I love that, I love that.

David McIntyre:

And so that means that there is a genuine expectance. If you will Sorry, that took forever to get out.

David McIntyre:

There's a genuine expectance that the end result of this is going to be good, and so we could use that a lot. I was looking in some commentary work, and one of the things that I came across there what it talked about was how the word endurance often describes the desired character of believers, and I thought that was a very, very interesting thought, because as you look at the HELPS word studies that are here if you'll pull that back up, john if you look at the HELPS word studies, one of the things that it says there is that it says it comes from under and from hypo, meaning under the believer, to remain or endure under the challenges that he allots in life, and so I like the concept here that number one, that the ability to endure is god enabled yes, yes so one once again.

David McIntyre:

um, it's not about you depending on your own ability to endure, but it's God-enabled ability to endure to the end. And then it says the challenges that he allots in life, and that's something that I don't think we always care to talk about, but it's that there are. There are challenges that we all face, there are things and and you know, it's like life, be lifin'.

Phillip Rich:

Yes.

David McIntyre:

And you know, there are things that are common to us all that we're going to have to endure and go through, and they're difficult. And then each of us, for our individual lives, based on some of the choices and decisions we make, don't make, there'll be things that happen that we have to endure. I mean there are, look, we all will have to endure the loss of a loved one.

Jon Dzyuba:

Yeah, yeah.

David McIntyre:

That's not, that's, that's not something that we'll get away from.

David McIntyre:

You know my I think about my parents often and you know my parents are older, they're in their eighties now, um, and I think about them often and I recognize that, um, and I'm not trying to be morbid, but I realized that I should make the most of the time that I have with them, because God numbers our days, and so I don't know how many more of those days he gives us.

David McIntyre:

But do you know, I, at the thought of not having them around, I grieve at that sometimes. I grieve at that sometimes, and that's part of that's, that's part of lifing, and that when my parents pass at some point, I'm going to have to endure that grief and simply believe the reality that I will see my parents again, because the same Jesus that they know, the same Jesus that they taught, the same father whom they believe and trust in and whom they've taught me to trust in, that we'll all meet together one day in glory and we'll celebrate our faith in God, and that we made it and we made it. But then there were also just things that happen in life. You know you fail a test, you know that things aren't going well at your job you endure or have to go through what looks like a divorce.

David McIntyre:

You know, there are all these things that happen in our lives that require us to exercise patient endurance. But in the midst of that, you know, part of the waiting in the patient waiting of it all is because enduring doesn't mean we're just putting up with. There should be action that every believer is taking. An enduring time is a praying time.

Phillip Rich:

That's good man, that's good right there, and so we should be praying and seeking God.

David McIntyre:

That's good right there, and so we should be praying and seeking God, looking not only for wisdom but for change or engagement of the Father in every one of those situations and circumstances, and believing not only to see his hand move, but believe, to see believer to remain, to endure under the challenges that he allots in life. And God allows some things to come through, but remember he will not give us more than we are able to bear and will, with every temptation, make a way of escape, and so we just have to trust God for that, even though we may go through and endure some things that we don't want to and that we sometimes don't plan to. There's one other thing along that line, philip. It's like Hebrews talks a good little bit about the chastening of the Lord.

David McIntyre:

Right, right, right and it says that nobody wants to be chastened, in other words, nobody wants to get spanked.

Jon Dzyuba:

Right.

David McIntyre:

Nobody wants to be disciplined by their father. But yet it compares and it says you know, you take discipline regularly from your earthly fathers and I think you think it's going to make you better. And it says how much more if your heavenly father disciplines you to make you optimally what you are always meant to be.

David McIntyre:

That's good, and so we go through some things and we shouldn't be afraid to go through some things. But just because we go through some things doesn't mean God doesn't love us and that he doesn't care for us, but he's course correcting and putting us where he needs to be, and sometimes we get that the easy way. But you know, like I know, that a lot of us take the hard route in so many areas that we have to be disciplined out of that wrong way.

Phillip Rich:

That's good David, that's good man, you know. A lot of times, honestly, it's our pride, our pride it gets in the way and then we end up making choices and doing things that we could have completely skipped and been fine, but we had to learn the hard way. You know. And one of my favorite scriptures ever along these lines is Proverbs 19, verse three completely skipped and been fine, but we had to learn the hard way, you know.

Phillip Rich:

And one of my favorite scriptures ever along these lines is Proverbs 19, verse three. It's what it has to be, one of my favorites in the entire book of Proverbs. It says in the King James, the foolishness of man perverts his way and then his heart frets against the Lord. There it is. The new living is the Lord.

Phillip Rich:

It says the new living translation. I can't read the full thing because my own big face is in the way, but there it is. It says people ruin their lives by their own foolishness and then are angry at the Lord. Yeah, and so, David, this is one of those things where you have the true, genuine chastening of the Lord and then you have just results of dumb decisions on the other side of that too, and in the results of those dumb decisions that can turn into some of the most teachable moments of your life for sure yeah, if you let them

Phillip Rich:

if you let them, that's right. If you don't let your pride get in the way you know, and if you don't sit there and try to blame everybody instead of looking in the mirror? Um, because, man, I've got plenty of those examples from my own life that you know choices I made, things I did, walked into it willingly with eyes open, thought I knew better, and then the whole thing blows up in my face and I look around at all the rubble and I'm like God, how did I end up here? And if I'm honest with myself, the Holy Spirit can show you in five seconds. Oh yeah. Well, remember when you chose to do this and deep down you knew it probably wasn't the right thing to do. I bet you did it anyway. Yep, here you are.

David McIntyre:

But, phil, you know, can we just talk for a moment?

Phillip Rich:

coffee talk.

David McIntyre:

Yes, yes you and I are a little bit older now, right, and so we don't lord over, not lord our age over anybody. But the reality is, is that part of this is experience talk? Yes, because I'm going to tell you, and you know I'm. Maybe we're not going to tell you and you know, maybe we're not trying to go here tonight, but you know, I've made so many stupid mistakes in my younger years, and Phil has too.

Phillip Rich:

Oh gosh, yes.

David McIntyre:

And he'll tell them to you. Yeah, so many times we thought we were smarter than God, so many times we thought we better understood what was going on and we had our feelings in it and there was a hard way that we could have chosen to go. But we didn't want that hard way because that looked like it was going to be hard.

Phillip Rich:

Yeah.

David McIntyre:

And it turns out that was probably the easier way.

Phillip Rich:

Yes.

David McIntyre:

The shorter path to go I mean we have made. I'm sorry we've made so many mistakes. Hey look, I'm where I'm at. I'm 50-something now and I'd never remember what the number on this other side of it is.

Phillip Rich:

Starts with a five. That's all we know.

David McIntyre:

Yeah, but I'm 50-something now and do you know? And I don't know about you. Phil, you feel free to share too, too, but it's like I'm just now getting lessons come on. I sometimes wish I I like why didn't you and why didn't you get that 20 years ago? Come on, why didn't you appreciate and understand that then, when you had all this energy to do this?

Jon Dzyuba:

and you know all this other stuff?

David McIntyre:

why did you know the times that I mean literally the times that I've I've bankrupted myself?

David McIntyre:

yeah, yeah you know, because of poor financial management and because of stupid decisions, that I would look, I'd look back over now and I cringe and can't and say how in the world did I ever make a decision like that, that I would never make that decision right now. And these are all things that you know. The Lord tries to steer you away from. You know, I can remember being in a Best Buy 20 years ago and being like Lord I just got to have this.

Jon Dzyuba:

I got the money.

David McIntyre:

And, lord, why do you need that? Yeah, why is that important to have right now? Well, lord, you know, I got it's 450 and I got 500 in the bank. And there you go, you spend 450, you got $50 left in the bank and you think that's going to hold you over. And then something unexpected happens. Flat tire happens. You know, dave Ramsey calls it Murphy yeah, good old Murphy, yeah you know, murphy's law pops up and and these are all I mean.

David McIntyre:

We just gotta, we just gotta I don't know, phil, we gotta change our thinking. I guess we gotta. I wish, I wish for those of you who are younger, you guys who are finding Jesus in your 20s and your 30s and stuff, and even you guys who are in your 40s and early 50s and stuff.

David McIntyre:

I wish that you young guys would just trust God and believe him early and not choose to make the mistakes that we have made. But I know also we can tell you about the mistakes. We can tell you don't go that way. And some of you still do it.

Phillip Rich:

Yeah, yep, you know, man, I think about it, and the one thing that I can say was probably the biggest like gaping hole in my understanding back then was I had no foresight Right. No foresight, I really was zero zilch.

Phillip Rich:

Zero. And in my own mind, I'm thinking I'm doing things to plan ahead, I'm doing this and that, but when I really think about how I could have set myself up differently versus what I did, I realized I did most of the time what was convenient for the moment instead of what could have really set me up for later. Dude, somebody said this the other day. I forgot who said it, but they're like you know, people talk about you know, live each day like it's your last or like tomorrow's never going to come, he said. The truth is, tomorrow's probably going to come for most of y'all, you know. So you're sitting here trying to YOLO yourself into whatever, and now you've got to deal with the consequences of bad decisions that were impulsive and stupid, and you know what I mean. And it's like, dude, Because you know, David, you and I can attest to this. Like dude, because you know, David, you and I can attest to this. I better not go there completely, but I'll say this I've made enough money to be much further along than I actually am now.

David McIntyre:

And.

Phillip Rich:

I mean you're preaching Dude. In the past 10 years, I promise you I've made enough money to where I should have been way further along now than I am, and but I like you, david, there were some things that I thought, you know, man, I got to have and I got to do and all this kind of stuff, and it's like, oh, man, you know, and because life is happening day by day, you know, little increments at a time.

Phillip Rich:

You don't see how things are accumulating. And that's what I mean by foresight. It's like I should have paid more attention to positive accumulation. In some things. You know so, um, so you know. Word to the wise for those who are like we talked about in your twenties and thirts um, you know you're, you're gonna hit this age one day. Most of you will, um, and it's better to have done some things. Live beneath your means, be smart while you still have the energy. You know how. Those of us who are on the other side of this and we're a little further along age-wise, we have more to look back on than you do. And we're telling you listen loud and clear, think soberly about where you are and realize that there are some opportunities, some stages in life that are not always going to be there, and you have to take advantage of it while you have it, because things can change. Economies can go up and down, all kinds of stuff can happen. So make hay while the sun shines is what we're saying.

David McIntyre:

Right, right, and you know, if you trust, and it's all these down times, you know you can probably hear as we talk about this that there is a sense of regret.

Phillip Rich:

Yeah.

David McIntyre:

And there is, and it is because we regret not doing it the Lord's way up front, and we have. We have both been disciplined for that. Yeah, and it wasn't because it wasn't because the Lord didn't love us. It's because he loved us, he knew that he had to teach us and show us a better way, because if we didn't go the better way, we would always be in the worst possible positions. And so and here's what I here's what's so good about God he will help you to rebuild, whatever it is.

Phillip Rich:

Come on, man, that's right.

David McIntyre:

And it'll rebuild and it'll build back stronger and you'll be stronger for it, but you, you will. It's just like in your real life world. If you were like me and got spankings from time to time, you remember those spankings.

Phillip Rich:

That's right, that's right.

David McIntyre:

Spanking stand out and they keep you from making certain decisions Later on in life that you're like Nope, I'm not going to do that. No, I don't need to be at home goods every day buying pillows. I just don't. Our house doesn't need that many pillows and letting things and I know we're talking about a lot of financial stuff, but it's. You finally have some money and it's burning a hole in your pocket to get out.

David McIntyre:

You just want to spend because it'll make you feel good and all those other things. And the Lord is like don't spend, save or give to the church or or provide to meet a need. Set up your, set up your, your, what's it called? You're saving your thousand dollars your emergency fund Invest in some things because the compounding interest of a small investment in your 20s can result in a million dollars by the time you're 50 or 60.

David McIntyre:

There's so many things to do. And here's another area and I know it feels like we're off topic, but we're not your health. Yes, you can never, well, not never, but when your health goes downhill, there's nothing worse than feeling bad.

Phillip Rich:

Oh goodness.

David McIntyre:

Yeah Well, there's little worse than feeling bad. Being broke is right there with it, amen.

Phillip Rich:

Amen Amen.

David McIntyre:

To be in a position where you can't walk like you used to walk or you can't fully see as well as you used to see, and we know that some of these things come with age. But there are things that you can do. There are exercises you can do to lengthen the quality of your vision yeah to.

David McIntyre:

You know, if you go on exercise and just go out and walk and things like that, all of those improve your physical well-being. Yeah, but instead we live in a world where couch potato is the way yeah, and so we're sitting down to play video games. Um Well, if you're like me, I literally seem to sit at this desk all day long.

David McIntyre:

And every time I get up it hurts and part of it is from just being in this sitting position. And you know, when you lose your health, then you miss everything. When your knees start hurting and you can't get up and get around like you used to your shoulders, other parts of your body, or you find that you've got other issues going on, and then you begin to realize if only I hadn't been eating all those Doritos and fried chicken back you know, back in the day if I better taken care of myself, if I'd gone to the gym and made the gym a part of my habit in my life, habits in my twenties and thirties, rather than waiting until I'm 50 something.

David McIntyre:

And now I'm trying to go to the gym and trying to catch up on what's been passed and it's like, yes, the lord can heal, yes, the lord will bless, yes, the lord will help to restore, but you could have had it all along. Yeah, true, and it's just, and all of these things are to say that what you need is perseverance that's right, that's right what.

David McIntyre:

What you need is to be able to patiently wait, and when things get tough or there are things going on that you need endurance to underpin what you're doing so that you can keep going on, because the end result is all of these things pay off that's right. That's right, there's always a good payoff when you're 70 and you're spry and you feel good and you don't have a bunch of stuff going on with you and you don't spend every week at the doctor getting another pill, getting another pill, getting another pill and all that all of these things pay off when you're financially okay and

David McIntyre:

you're not struggling week by week to try to figure out how you're going to pay rent or pay your mortgage that month, or how you're going to take care of bills or how you're just going to eat and live when your children are healthy and they're strong and they love you and you love them and you guys want to be around one another and their families are growing and you get to see their families growing and maturing and you see your grandbabies and your great grandbabies and all of that good stuff.

David McIntyre:

I mean you begin to realize that those are the important things, yeah, yeah those are the critical things in life over some of the things that when we're, particularly when we're younger, then we prioritize why did? I need to be out. The club didn't get me any benefit.

Phillip Rich:

Amen Amen.

David McIntyre:

Looking at bars didn't get me any benefit. You know some of the stupid stuff we used to do. Phil, yeah, In hindsight there was no benefit to it.

Phillip Rich:

No, it's like what Paul said in Romans six. He's like what fruit do you have of the things you did that you're now ashamed of? You know right, it's just like what, when I look back at some of the stuff I did and you know, david and I both had a BC to our lives before Christ, and I mean I was, you know, out there going to parties, getting drunk and all this stupid stuff and it's like I can't think of one thing that I've benefited from by being out in that whole environment. I can't think of one thing that has moved my life further in a good direction from that, from that time in my life. It's just it was wasted time and like David's been saying about, you know, taking care of yourself when you're younger. It's all fun and games to go out and get plastered or whatever when you're young, but you could actually there's several ways that could go wrong. You could develop an addiction that you weren't expecting to have by the time you're five years down the road, or you could just rack your body and mess it up really badly by putting a lot of stuff in there that doesn't help your body out, you know. So this stuff's very important, man, and I wanted to say something to David about the thing about taking care of your health.

Phillip Rich:

When you're younger, I did probably another direction of not doing the right thing, other direction of not doing the right thing. Um, I was over working and barely getting sleep for probably I mean from the time my mid twenties, all the way to my late thirties I had the whole grind set mentality. You know, it was like I'm going to grind, man, I'm going to do this. I got a full-time job. I'm doing uh, doing part-time stuff on the side, building websites. I went to school also while I was doing all that stuff. I was going to school online, so I had all this crazy stuff happening and I mean I probably averaged five hours of sleep a night for years, for over a decade probably, and I didn't realize it at the time. But that's not healthy. You know, you can't sustain that forever and I ended up suffering from. What I found out later, through a lot of research, was something called adrenal fatigue, and that's when you don't get enough, when your body's in crisis mode all the time because you don't get enough, enough rest, what you're doing is you're putting your body into that adrenaline state all the time and so after a while you're just hyped up non-stop and then it's hard for you by to come back down, and so I developed some issues from that vertigo, some other stuff that happened, all from just trying to go too hard. So so there's also that side of it.

Phillip Rich:

Balance is the key and this is what I think. It goes back to what David has just said earlier patient endurance. You're not gonna get to where you wanna go in two days, like if you have big goals in life, big dreams. Don't think that you're gonna snap your fingers and in a week it's gonna happen. The kingdom of God. If you do it God's way, patience is required, patience is required. You'll get there, but it may take longer than you'd like. But the cool thing is that the lessons you'll learn, the character that you'll build, the things you'll avoid by simply being patient. I'm telling you you'll arrive at that place in a much better state than doing it some kind of haphazard and crazy way.

David McIntyre:

When you do it God's way, Phil, it's beautiful.

Phillip Rich:

It is yes.

David McIntyre:

It's so, it is. Yes, it's so, it's like it's it's so perfect.

Phillip Rich:

Yeah.

David McIntyre:

And then what you begin to do is you begin to you enjoy the journey. Yeah, enjoy some of the ups and some of the downs and and all of that stuff, and you begin to learn and grow, and the knowledge that you gain during that process of patient endurance and patiently waiting and and being prayerful and taking godly action during that time, man, it's the kind of stuff that marks your life forever. It's where the stories come from that you'll share with people when they ask you how did you do this? You know, one of the one of the things that I'm so guilty of is, over the last umpteen years I've started several businesses, but when they weren't moving as quickly as I thought they would, I abandoned them and semi abandoned them, right on the cusp of when they were about to lock in.

Phillip Rich:

My goodness.

David McIntyre:

And I look back in hindsight and I realize you missed it there, you missed it there. You quit there when you shouldn't have. You know, and it's just like so. Now you know, I've grown and become more patient. I realize like right now, philip and I and a couple of other friends, we've built a course together to help people in the workplace. Right, I am not of the deception that this is going to become an overnight success and then, before you know it, we're just going to be overrun with sales.

David McIntyre:

I realize I have to build something. I have to build credibility in a new market that I've never been a part of before. I've got to be able to show some of our work and demonstrate its effectiveness. We've got to reach out to people and communicate who we are and why we exist and all of that good stuff. And that takes time, that takes patient endurance, that takes prayer, that takes us working through the process. But when we get there, the beautiful thing that probably happens afterwards is we never have to rebuild like that again, because we'll have a built-in audience of people who already know us and trust us. And so as we release the next course and the next course, there's already something built in there for us.

David McIntyre:

And you see, that's kind of how God works, that as we patiently endure and work our way through, there are so many things that are secondary at the point you might not even be thinking about them but secondary things that you're gaining and putting together and setting in place that will actually benefit you through the next venture that you try to take off into.

David McIntyre:

And God aligns these things for us because he already knows your path, he already knows the way that you're going to go and he will align things for your benefit. If you just follow his path and even when you don't and you have to be disciplined that you get back on track and do your best to continue just following he will get you. He will get you there. And you know, phillip, I was thinking about my son. You know I've had a couple talks with him over the last couple of weeks because he rips and runs and then he crashes and burns and he'll he'll spend a day in you know, knocked out, and it's like, it's like I keep asking him when are you going to put it together?

David McIntyre:

yeah your lifestyle leads leads you to crash and burn when are?

David McIntyre:

you going to adjust your lifestyle so that you can have the energy that you need to make the decisions that you need, so that you can stay stable throughout the whole process and not have to have a day where you cancel all your appointments or do this, that or the other and crash and burn, and then that that's not healthy for you, that's not physically healthy for you, it's not good for what you're trying to do, it's not good for how you live, and if you start believing the hype that that is the way it's just like you said, philip, it's going to lead to not good stuff for you.

Phillip Rich:

Amen, amen to that, wow. So I guess the moral of the story would be patient endurance is so important.

David McIntyre:

And who knew that we were going to end up going this way?

Phillip Rich:

I mean I didn't think this was coming, but I'm glad we shared you know. I hope it helps you guys out there to listening, because you know we're not sitting here like gurus on top of a mountain that know everything you know. We're not sitting here like gurus on top of a mountain that know everything you know, but we can. We can share what we've experienced, and including you know, learning from our mistakes, I think, is a good thing, you know we're the, we're the, we're the Furu's sitting at the bottom of the hill.

David McIntyre:

Let us tell you a few things on your way up, son, let us help you here Jesus loves you.

Phillip Rich:

I'm telling you, man, but the kingdom of God always requires patience, and that's actually, as we've covered in past podcasts, that's one of the fruits of the spirit is patience.

David McIntyre:

Yeah.

Phillip Rich:

You know it is a must. And when we say patient endurance, to nutshell the whole thing, it means just steady, plotting away at the things you know you're supposed to do, the things God's assigned for you. You're not too hyped and getting crazy ahead of God. You're not lazy and lagging behind God, you're just being very patient and steady with how you approach things.

David McIntyre:

Yep, and don't forget, it includes having a cheerful expectation. Yes, so you can do it with great hope that what you're doing is going to pay off.

Phillip Rich:

Amen Good stuff.

David McIntyre:

Well, you guys, I guess we're putting the bookmark there. Philip, let's pray for everybody. Let's pray for this patient endurance to take root and just bless and benefit the people real quick.

Phillip Rich:

Yes, sir. Well, father, thank you for what you shared tonight. Thank you for the wisdom of the Holy Spirit to help us to put these things into practice. Lord, we lift up any and every person who will hear this podcast, watch this podcast, any and every person who will hear this podcast, watch this podcast. Lord, I ask you, we ask you to bring about that wisdom in their hearts and in their minds, wisdom they can act on to operate in that patient endurance.

Phillip Rich:

Father, we thank you for the help of the Holy Spirit to produce that fruit of patience in our lives. We're grateful for that, lord, and we thank you for what you said in Luke 21, where you said in your patience, you possess your soul. Lord, thank you for those of us who are still striving and seeking Lord, we just ask you to help us do that. Help us possess our souls, keep ourselves in line through patient endurance, because we do believe, like what you said in Hebrews 6, that Abraham he patiently endured and then therefore obtained the promise. We thank you, father. We see and believe to see your goodness in the land of the living through patient endurance, and we give you praise for that. We thank you for the help of the Holy Spirit and all these things. In Jesus' name we pray Amen.

David McIntyre:

Amen. We're so grateful and thanks for praying for everybody. Philip, we're so grateful for you, man. We're believing God for you guys, just like we believe God for ourselves, and we're praying for you. We're praying good things for you and we're praying that you'll see the goodness of God in the land of the living. So we're glad you joined the podcast. Thanks for connecting with us, don't forget. You can also connect with us on social media. We're out there on TikTok, we're on Instagram, you can find us also on Facebook and, of course, two of our favorite places YouTube and Rumble.

David McIntyre:

So make sure you like and subscribe not only like and subscribe to the podcast, but also like and subscribe the episode. That way, we know that you enjoyed it and that it did something or it benefited you in some way, because that's really our goal. We want to benefit you in some way. We want to bring this word to life so that you can grab hold of it and see good things happen in your life. Don't also forget that if you've got questions or you want us to talk about something in particular, we'd love to do so.

David McIntyre:

Just shoot us a note at gotbrewed at biblebrosnet. That's gotbrew at biblebrosnet, and you can also comment on this episode, and you can also comment on any of the episodes, no matter where you're watching it, even if you're listening by Spotify or Apple podcast or any of those podcast platforms. Well, that's it for now. Oh, and one other thing don't forget you can get the Bible study notes for this episode by email. We send those out every Monday morning at 6 am. So just go ahead and click on the link in the description and then you can sign up for that and we'll be sure to send out those Bible study notes for you for the week. And also, if there's be sure to send out those Bible study notes for you for the week, and also if there's a past episode that you want some study notes for, just let me know, and at that same email, gotbreweratbiblebrosnet, and we'll create a quick study guide for you. Okay, all right, until next time. I'm David, he's Phillip and we are out. Peace, you're out, peace.

People on this episode

Contributor

Stephanie Rich

Host
Contributor

David McIntyre

Co-host
Contributor

Phillip Rich

Co-host